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Originally posted by Funky Chicken View PostFowl I am assuming that you have never watched Bosden play.
He is a very good defender, has some very good ball skills, is a low error player and is not injury prone (he played most of the year with a bulging disc in his back, he probably should have rested but was super keen to get out on the field). Wait till next year he will get a decent shot under Robinson, show you what a gun he is.
If SBW comes to us I would go with
8. Warea-Hargreaves
9. Seluini
10. Kennedy
11. SBW
12. Guerra
13. Cordner
14. Mortimer
15. Bosden
16. Tasi
17. Evans/Napa/Masoe
If SBW doesn't sign with us then I would go with
8. Warea-Hargreaves
9. Seluini
10. Kennedy
11. Bosden
12. Guerra
13. Cordner
14. Mortimer
15. Arona/Cherrington/Takarangi/Aubusson/Nuuasala
16. Tasi
17. Evans/Napa/Masoe1911 1912 1913 1923 1935 1936 1937 1940 1945 1974 1975 2002 2013 2018 2019 2020
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Originally posted by Funky Chicken View PostAlos I note that Kane Lawton from the Titans is off contract, we should sign him up as he is great young hooker who was the starting hooker ahead of Matt Srama until he got injured. He and Seluini would give us some awesome attacking thrust which would greatly benefit our go forward and service to the halves. Unlike the concrete slow service provided by Jake Friend.
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It's hard to decide what to do with Takairangi, he's an absolute weapon in attack but a massive liability in defence. His defensive decision-making is appauling, especially when there's any kind of simple ball movement from the opposition, but watching some replays of our games in 2012 this guy definately knows how to offload and set-up a try. He is very skillful in attack for a back-rower of his height.
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Originally posted by justjuice1992 View PostIt's hard to decide what to do with Takairangi, he's an absolute weapon in attack but a massive liability in defence. His defensive decision-making is appauling, especially when there's any kind of simple ball movement from the opposition, but watching some replays of our games in 2012 this guy definately knows how to offload and set-up a try. He is very skillful in attack for a back-rower of his height....
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If SBW comes - 11. Guerra, 12. SBW, 13. Cordner, BENCH: Aubusson
If SBW doesn't come - 11. Guerra, 12. Aubusson, 13. Cordner, BENCH: Takairangi
The question is all based on whether SBW comes. If he doesn't, well, Takairangi is a much poorer but cheaper equivalent. Tall, rangy, skillful, can put a hit on but has flaws in consistency and his defensive abilities. Bosden, Cherrington, Symonds, Arona are all depth.
Kennedy and JWH will be our long-term starting props. The two bench prop positions will be a toss-up between regular first-graders Masoe, Tasi and Nuuausala, as well as Evans, Napa, Moa and Ailaomai all staking their claims.
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Originally posted by The Mack View PostIf SBW comes - 11. Guerra, 12. SBW, 13. Cordner, BENCH: Aubusson
If SBW doesn't come - 11. Guerra, 12. Aubusson, 13. Cordner, BENCH: Takairangi
The question is all based on whether SBW comes. If he doesn't, well, Takairangi is a much poorer but cheaper equivalent. Tall, rangy, skillful, can put a hit on but has flaws in consistency and his defensive abilities. Bosden, Cherrington, Symonds, Arona are all depth.
Kennedy and JWH will be our long-term starting props. The two bench prop positions will be a toss-up between regular first-graders Masoe, Tasi and Nuuausala, as well as Evans, Napa, Moa and Ailaomai all staking their claims.
jwh as a second row with tasi up front1911 1912 1913 1923 1935 1936 1937 1940 1945 1974 1975 2002 2013 2018 2019 2020
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On one side :
12.Aubo, 4.SKD, 5. Moga
other side
11.SBW, 3.Leilua(if his form improves), 2.Mini (if he doesn't do the honorable thing).
FB- RTS
lock- Cordner, a once in a generation leader/footballer. I hope we can lock this kid up after 2013.
Frontrowers, Starting: Kennedy, JWH
Bench: Tasi (after a good offseason this kid should be good to go with a fresh start. Has the capability to be something huge one day), FPN (need to be in the Front row next season).Comment of the year:
Andrew Johns, Semi-Final vs North Queensland ,
"It's touched Lui's hand and travelled forward but that's not a knock on"
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Originally posted by Funky Chicken View PostFowl I am assuming that you have never watched Bosden play.
He is a very good defender, has some very good ball skills, is a low error player and is not injury prone (he played most of the year with a bulging disc in his back, he probably should have rested but was super keen to get out on the field). Wait till next year he will get a decent shot under Robinson, show you what a gun he is.
If SBW comes to us I would go with
8. Warea-Hargreaves
9. Seluini
10. Kennedy
11. SBW
12. Guerra
13. Cordner
14. Mortimer
15. Bosden
16. Tasi
17. Evans/Napa/Masoe
If SBW doesn't sign with us then I would go with
8. Warea-Hargreaves
9. Seluini
10. Kennedy
11. Bosden
12. Guerra
13. Cordner
14. Mortimer
15. Arona/Cherrington/Takarangi/Aubusson/Nuuasala
16. Tasi
17. Evans/Napa/Masoe
Played: 4
Tries: 1
Hit-ups: 30
Run Meters: 212
Offloads: 1
Tackles: 72
Bosden had a mixed year in 2013.
Whilst not playing as many NRL games as he would have liked due to constant injury problems, when Bosden was fully fit he was solid all across the field.
Bozza as his team mates call him made his debut for the club in round 7 against the Cowboys in Darwin and also featured in the massive ANZAC Day clash with the Dragons at Allianz Stadium.
Thats 1 offload from 30 hit ups, Did you say he is a ball player?
18 tackles per game for a forward ain't that great.
7 hit ups a game for a forward ain't that great.
53 meters a game for a forward ain't that great.
8 nrl games since rnd 9 in 2011 says he is either very average or always injured, I hope Bosden lives up to the hype but
he hasn't yet. NSW cup is not NRL. Not the gun player you think he is? and yes I have watched him play plenty of games.
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Originally posted by fowl View PostI concur, Bosden
Played: 4
Tries: 1
Hit-ups: 30
Run Meters: 212
Offloads: 1
Tackles: 72
Bosden had a mixed year in 2013.
Whilst not playing as many NRL games as he would have liked due to constant injury problems, when Bosden was fully fit he was solid all across the field.
Bozza as his team mates call him made his debut for the club in round 7 against the Cowboys in Darwin and also featured in the massive ANZAC Day clash with the Dragons at Allianz Stadium.
Thats 1 offload from 30 hit ups, Did you say he is a ball player?
18 tackles per game for a forward ain't that great.
7 hit ups a game for a forward ain't that great.
53 meters a game for a forward ain't that great.
8 nrl games since rnd 9 in 2011 says he is either very average or always injured, I hope Bosden lives up to the hype but
he hasn't yet. NSW cup is not NRL. Not the gun player you think he is? and yes I have watched him play plenty of games.
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Originally posted by fowl View PostI concur, Bosden
Played: 4
Tries: 1
Hit-ups: 30
Run Meters: 212
Offloads: 1
Tackles: 72
Bosden had a mixed year in 2013.
Whilst not playing as many NRL games as he would have liked due to constant injury problems, when Bosden was fully fit he was solid all across the field.
Bozza as his team mates call him made his debut for the club in round 7 against the Cowboys in Darwin and also featured in the massive ANZAC Day clash with the Dragons at Allianz Stadium.
Thats 1 offload from 30 hit ups, Did you say he is a ball player?
18 tackles per game for a forward ain't that great.
7 hit ups a game for a forward ain't that great.
53 meters a game for a forward ain't that great.
8 nrl games since rnd 9 in 2011 says he is either very average or always injured, I hope Bosden lives up to the hype but
he hasn't yet. NSW cup is not NRL. Not the gun player you think he is? and yes I have watched him play plenty of games.
Ok so firstly I said he had ball skills not that he was a ball player.
His mates call him Boz or Bozo.
So lets compare his stats with some of the other forwards in the team who were afforded many more games than Bosden, by master coach Smith.
Bosden
Played: 4
Hit Ups: 30 (average of 7.5 per game)
Run Metres: 212 (average of 53m per game)
Offloads: 1 (average of 0.25 per game)
Tackles: 72 (average of 18 per game)
Missed Tackles: 5 (average of 1.25 per game)
Aubusson
Played: 24
Hitups: 178 (average of 7.4 per game)
Run Metres: 1328 (average of 55m per game)
Offloads: 14 (average of 0.5 per game)
Tackles: 526 (average of 21 per game)
Missed Tackles: 34 (average of 1.41 per game)
Nuuasala
Played: 19
Hitups: 184 (average of 9.6 per game)
Run Metres: 1382 (average of 72m per game)
Offloads: 31 (average of 1.6 per game)
Tackles: 318 (average of 16.7 per game)
Missed Tackles: 44 (average of 2.3 per game)
Takarangi
Played: 16
Hitups: 100 (average of 6.25 per game)
Run Metres: 596 (average of 37.2m per game)
Offloads: 28 (average of 1.75 per game)
Tackles: 230 (average of 14.3 per game)
Missed Tackles: 21 (average of 1.3 per game)
Masoe
Played: 14
Hitups: 85 (average of 6 per game)
Run Metres: 862 (average of 61m per game)
Offloads: 2 (0.14 per game)
Tackles: 171 (average of 12.2 per game)
Missed Tackles: 11 (average of 0.78 per game)
There were players like Cordner, Guerra and Warea-Hargreaves whose numbers were far superior to Bosden, but as you can see there were some forwards in the team whose stats were below Bosden's, yet were picked by the coach week after week.
I feel that with his back fully fit and given a decent go in first grade he will leave many of the above in the shade (he is most certainly not average). He is a very good dependable player, the sort that our team needs and deserves to be in the first grade team ahead of some of these guys. I just hope that he gets a decent shot under coach Robinson.Last edited by Funky Chicken; 10-13-2012, 02:22 AM.
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I don't really see Bosden in competition with any of those blokes, more Guerra & Cordner who are superior players imo. Should injury occur to either he'd be my first choice replacement.
I think FPN, Masoe, Taka & Aubs are all different types of players to Bosden and they offer the balance every pack needs. Workrate shouldn't be the sole criteria for every position.
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