Official Match Day Thread: Roosters v Knights

[Bates]

Oh and I'm glad we finally got to see Foketi on an edge.

Hope gets another chance there against the Tigers when Crichton is out again.

Same

Post SOO I'd like to see Gus left edge, Foketi right edge,

I'm not completely sold on Wong.

[SamKerrSimp]

Newcastle are the only team to have scored less than 200 points and average 13 points a game and it took them until round 9 to score their 100th point of the season when they finished the round on 102 points scored and that was because they played a Souths team who had a stack of players missing. They are an all time poor attacking team is no way to spin it any other way and to say they aren't shows that person doesn't watch them play.

[King Salvo]

- yeh the posts on here from the usual suspects including you often make you feel like that on here - including below

[Bates]

Dude you are asking for it and I will give it back in spades if you continue

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[Mickie Lane]

Same

Post SOO I'd like to see Gus left edge, Foketi right edge,

I'm not completely sold on Wong.

Foketi will probably be 13 for the next few weeks depending on what happens with Victor,
I think Robbo will stick with Gus & Wong until one of them gets injured.

[Rooster_6]

Even someone with a basic knowledge of the game would understand that a team with a 4 or 5 current ranking in defence is hard to beat and score against. -Whether they can score enough points to win games is a different matter depending of course in who they play against as far as defence ranking goes.

No, whether they can "score enough points to win games" is quite LITERALLY the matter in regards to how easy/hard they are to beat.

[Bates]

Not sure what happened there.

The above was Sally's original response to the Inflictor.

[Rooster_6]

Foketi will probably be 13 for the next few weeks depending on what happens with Victor,
I think Robbo will stick with Gus & Wong until one of them gets injured.

I think lock is definitely his best spot too, he's doing an admirable job at prop but you want him on those late set carries when the defence is a little bit more loose and he's got some room to move.

Teddy & Sandon really should be sitting on his hip because he really understands space well, I can see him setting up a few linebreaks if he gets good minutes at lock.

[Vasco]

Foketi will probably be 13 for the next few weeks depending on what happens with Victor,
I think Robbo will stick with Gus & Wong until one of them gets injured.

I reckon Watson might play lock.

[ccfc bondi]

[QUOTE=player 1;n1104970]O'brien in the presser is just insufferable - "I'm gonna try really hard this week to maintain my self control".

If that's as hard as he can try, it's not enough. "So many young blokes', "I'm just so proud". WTF?

He's off the deep end.

Must be short odds to be sacked in the next week or two.

Apparently he doesn't know the rules. And of course, he wouldn't have complained about the 1 metre forward pass that was missed in the lead-up to the try that got overruled by the bunker!!

[King Salvo]

No, whether they can "score enough points to win games" is quite LITERALLY the matter in regards to how easy/hard they are to beat.

Before this game, the Roosters and Knights were on 5 wins each.

I don't think you understand that no matter what the current averages per game for and against are as per the relevant round, it's not a guarantee that a team will score and concede these in any game at any given time.

For instance, at the conclusion of round 14, the season averages per game where

Roosters - 24 for and 26 against
Knights - 14 for and 19 against

The Roosters didn't score 24 or concede 26 nor did the Knights score 14 or concede 19 in tonight's game.

Anyone that saw the game tonight will say that the Roosters D was on tonight as it had to be, as they were not scoring points and it denied the Knights several scoring opportunities which belied their current status of only a 14 points for on average scoring side.

They scored 8 in the end.

It's what happens on the day in the game.

[SamKerrSimp]

The two best Newcastle performances this year were against a heavily depleted Penrith team during origin and a heavily depleted Souths team during magic round where they scored a combined 55 of their 193 points for the season. Tonight was Newcastle's 8th game of the season out of 14 where they scored less than double digit points lol anyone who argues that they aren't a bad attacking team has no idea on footy and should be safely ignored.

[Rooster_6]

Before this game, the Roosters and Knights were on 5 wins each.

I don't think you understand that no matter what the current averages per game for and against are as per the relevant round, it's not a guarantee that a team will score and concede these in any game at any given time.

For instance, at the conclusion of round 14, the season averages per game where

Roosters - 24 for and 26 against
Knights - 14 for and 19 against

The Roosters didn't score 24 or concede 26 nor did the Knights score 14 or concede 19 in tonight's game.

Anyone that saw the game tonight will say that the Roosters D was on tonight as it had to be, as they were not scoring points and it denied the Knights several scoring opportunities which belied their current status of only a 14 points for on average scoring side.

They scored 8 in the end.

It's what happens on the day in the game.

5 wins each at the conclusion of Round 14 is deceptive when you factor in that the draw is not equal, the upward trajectory of Roosters performances and the context of the wins for each club.

What you’ve conveniently failed to mentioned by cherry picking these numbers is the Knights had played 1 extra game with 13 vs the Roosters 12 games at the conclusion of Round 14.

Of the Knights 13 games, 9 were against bottom 8 sides, 4 against top 8 sides.
Of the Roosters 12 games, 5 were against bottom 8 sides, 7 against top 8 sides.

So yes with one more game, and an undeniably softer draw the Knights were ‘equal’ on 5 wins.

At best you’re just flat out being dishonest in the way you are presenting your arguments, at worst you are a Dom Young, Newcastle Knights super fan in disguise.

[King Salvo]

The two best Newcastle performances this year were against a heavily depleted Penrith team during origin and a heavily depleted Souths team during magic round where they scored a combined. Tonight was Newcastle's 8th game of the season out of 14 where they scored less than double digit points lol anyone who argues that they aren't a bad attacking team has no idea on footy and should be safely ignored.

Really - you have no idea if you think season averages per games played have any indication on what a side may score and concede in any individual game- It's what happens on the day - Even Sam Kerr would tell you that.

Anyone can beat anyone on any given day

Roosters averaging 24 points for a game a game and conceding 26
Knights averaging 14 points for a game and conceding 19

Did either of the Roosters or Knights score or concede their season averages in this game -No they didn't

The Score was 12- 8

The Roosters defence saved a number of Knights scoring opportunities as well plus one Knights try denied by the Bunker which belies the position the Knights have in attack on the ladder.

[King Salvo]

5 wins each at the conclusion of Round 14 is deceptive when you factor in that the draw is not equal, the upward trajectory of Roosters performances and the context of the wins for each club.

What you’ve conveniently failed to mentioned by cherry picking these numbers is the Knights had played 1 extra game with 13 vs the Roosters 12 games at the conclusion of Round 14.

Of the Knights 13 games, 9 were against bottom 8 sides, 4 against top 8 sides.
Of the Roosters 12 games, 5 were against bottom 8 sides, 7 against top 8 sides.

So yes with one more game, and an undeniably softer draw the Knights were ‘equal’ on 5 wins.

At best you’re just flat out being dishonest in the way you are presenting your arguments, at worst you are a Dom Young, Newcastle Knights super fan in disguise.

Petty response - mmm calling me dishonest again I see - anyway the truth below

Oh my just over the half the season has been completed and who knows where teams will finish at seasons end - quite early to he calling top 8 finishes of teams irrespective of where they are placed when they play other teams with the number of games to go which is either 10 or11 games for sides

The facts are

Roosters average 24 for and 26 against
Knights 14 for and 19 against

Can you tell us all how the Roosters didn't score 24 and concede 26 or the Knights score 14 and concede 19- As that is their averages for and against this season so far.

So anyone with any knowledge of the game would know it would not be a cake walk for either side as games are not won on comp ladder positions nor on for and and against averages - It's won on the day i.e the game itself