DCE confirms career call for 2026

[Rooster_6]

DCE offers that along with a nice try assist tally and good defence, great for us.

I disagree, DCE's first thought process is always to create an opportunity. Similar to Adam Reynolds people just assume good kicking game = good organiser. This just isn't the case.

DCE's set construction is very erratic, it's usually just short side raids on the back of quick play the balls or clunky set up plays because he's forced into it. Watch him closely, if he runs a hit up play for one of his forwards he's never playing into the line to hold up a defender or creating space in the defensive line with some deception he's just dumping the ball off to them. It's only when he's looking to create does he engage the defensive line.

[Inflictor]

No side is overcoming a ton of fundamental errors like no pressure drops in yardage.

But a good organising half can also help stem the flow or errors. I think some of the main errors we can reduce in attack is how up tempo we constantly play and how we try to spread after periods of long defence or before we've won the ruck.

There was a play in the first half last week where we'd been doing some heavy defence for 5 minutes, just got through our 5 plays and we had a play the ball centre-filed around 45m out from our own line and instead of just kicking long and waiting a set or two to recover Savala tried to run a play where he feigned to kick and instead threw and inside ball to Teddy which he dropped.

I get there will be moments for a kid in his 7th game to make the odd error. Every halfback will make those odd could have done that better error in every game. Even the elite. But that is one bad decision that may actually have been a Teddy call. Saw Young last second and the play broke down. I'm sure Teddy makes plenty calls during the game. Nobody knows how that played out.

But again the majority of those 16 dropped balls had nothing to do with our halves and were probably all earlier than than a last tackle play. A bit of a stretch to lay any blame or could have closed the game out with those type of stats and base an argument on one play you've isolated.

Yet no credit about losing by 2 points to the most in form team in the comp with all our errors and the amount of tackling we did. They must have done something right.

EDIT: Here is the play. Watch Teddy. Tell me he didn't call that play.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKa19...ZkN2JianhncXZ5

[King Salvo]

No side is overcoming a ton of fundamental errors like no pressure drops in yardage.

But a good organising half can also help stem the flow or errors. I think some of the main errors we can reduce in attack is how up tempo we constantly play and how we try to spread after periods of long defence or before we've won the ruck.

There was a play in the first half last week where we'd been doing some heavy defence for 5 minutes, just got through our 5 plays and we had a play the ball centre-filed around 45m out from our own line and instead of just kicking long and waiting a set or two to recover Savala tried to run a play where he feigned to kick and instead threw and inside ball to Teddy which he dropped.

How could a half stem the flow of errors though unless they pass the ball to themselves?

Was it a bad pass to Tedesco from Hugo though ?

All know the errors from Mark Nawaqanitawase in the Bulldogs and Raiders games were costly - even Coach Robinson acknowledged this in the pressers -" he's got a choice and there’s just a couple of slight tweaks there that he needs to do to fix that up"

Not sure what game you watch at times but all can see you favour players and those you favour are never criticised.

You were on Dom Young's case from day one but crickets about Mark Nawaqanitawase - 25 errors ( Number 1) including 21 handling errors ( 3)

Dogs - 6 errors - 6 handling errors -2 tries conceded as a result - lost 24-20
Sharks - 2 errors - 2 handling errors - 0 tries - won 42-16
Raiders - 4 errors - 3 handling errors - 2 tries conceded as a result - lost 26-24

[roostermcgregor]

Ah, the goalposts move again. So now a try assist determined by the governing body of the game isn't enough it instead has to be a try assist in which DCE digs into the line and becomes a running threat to defenders, draw in an opponent and pass to support players who are in a hole.

Mate, it might be easier just to say that you're biased and don't want him here for your own personal reasons. The goalpost moving is absolutely embarrassing in this post.

WTF are you talking about in saying I am moving the goalposts?
I have just posted what I believe are the deficiencies in DCE’s game.
You can believe, or not believe in what I say - it’s your choice.
Yes , I am biased, and I don’t want DCE at the Roosters because I think he is an old, ordinary, overrated player who will offer less to our team than our existing young halves.
Just as you are biased with your overly favourable views of DCE.
My views have nothing to do with personal reasons - I’ve never met DCE, nor do I want to, nor do I care to.

Me moving the goalposts? - I said he doesn’t dig into the line, and rarely throws a cutout ball to create a try.
Maybe you should read R6 ( site administrators) post 301 , which basically confirms what I say:
” DCE’s set construction is very erratic “
” Watch him closely, if he runs a hitup play for one of his forwards, he’s never playing into the line to hold up a defender, or creating space in the defensive line with some deception, he’s just dumping the ball off to them”

That’s exactly what DCE does, play after play after play.
He just dumps the ball off to his support players.

You should closely watch what he does in football games.

[King Salvo]

I get there will be moments for a kid in his 7th game to make the odd error. Every halfback will make those odd could have done that better error in every game. Even the elite. But that is one bad decision that may actually have been a Teddy call. Saw Young last second and the play broke down. I'm sure Teddy makes plenty calls during the game. Nobody knows how that played out.

But again the majority of those 16 dropped balls had nothing to do with our halves and were probably all earlier than than a last tackle play. A bit of a stretch to lay any blame or could have closed the game out with those type of stats and base an argument on one play you've isolated.

Yet no credit about losing by 2 points to the most in form team in the comp with all our errors and the amount of tackling we did. They must have done something right.

EDIT: Here is the play. Watch Teddy. Tell me he didn't call that play.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKa19...ZkN2JianhncXZ5

Of course Tedesco called that play as anyone could see. - No issue with trying something though but blaming another player is mmm

Rooster_6's view is set completions doesn't matter and would rather have 20 quality sets out of 40 rather than 35 so called average sets out 40 set completions

mmm Penrith averaged 82% in set completions through their premiership years - Roosters set completion vs Raiders was 65% - that tells the story right there in how important set completions is

Game Possession % is also important too - Penrith around 54% those premiership years.

Possession is 9 tenths of the law.

[RoosterBooster]

8 tenths if Penrith averaged is 82%

Of course Tedesco called that play as anyone could see. - No issue with trying something though but blaming another player is mmm

Rooster_6's view is set completions doesn't matter and would rather have 20 quality sets out of 40 rather than 35 so called average sets out 40 set completions

mmm Penrith averaged 82% in set completions through their premiership years - Roosters set completion vs Raiders was 65% - that tells the story right there in how important set completions is

Game Possession % is also important too - Penrith around 54% those premiership years.

Possession is 9 tenths of the law.

[Mr Whippet]

WTF are you talking about in saying I am moving the goalposts?
I have just posted what I believe are the deficiencies in DCE’s game.
You can believe, or not believe in what I say - it’s your choice.
Yes , I am biased, and I don’t want DCE at the Roosters because I think he is an old, ordinary, overrated player who will offer less to our team than our existing young halves.
Just as you are biased with your overly favourable views of DCE.
My views have nothing to do with personal reasons - I’ve never met DCE, nor do I want to, nor do I care to.

Me moving the goalposts? - I said he doesn’t dig into the line, and rarely throws a cutout ball to create a try.
Maybe you should read R6 ( site administrators) post 301 , which basically confirms what I say:
” DCE’s set construction is very erratic “
” Watch him closely, if he runs a hitup play for one of his forwards, he’s never playing into the line to hold up a defender, or creating space in the defensive line with some deception, he’s just dumping the ball off to them”

That’s exactly what DCE does, play after play after play.
He just dumps the ball off to his support players.

You should closely watch what he does in football games.

Absolutely correct on all points, and regardless of his pending arrival, I fail to see what he can offer more than Walker, Savala and Sandon.

[caz]

hard to know what effect 'the dce factor' would have on the playing group. if they're on board it could be inspirational, if not ...

[Lydon]

I just can’t understand this decision from DCE’s perspective..

After playing 14 seasons at the same Club and also captaining them why would you switch to one of their rivals for one or possibly two years at the age of 37,what’s the thought process behind it?

Wouldn’t it be better to either retire or go play overseas?

Very confusing from his end to be honest.

[Rooster_6]

I get there will be moments for a kid in his 7th game to make the odd error. Every halfback will make those odd could have done that better error in every game. Even the elite. But that is one bad decision that may actually have been a Teddy call. Saw Young last second and the play broke down. I'm sure Teddy makes plenty calls during the game. Nobody knows how that played out.

But again the majority of those 16 dropped balls had nothing to do with our halves and were probably all earlier than than a last tackle play. A bit of a stretch to lay any blame or could have closed the game out with those type of stats and base an argument on one play you've isolated.

Yet no credit about losing by 2 points to the most in form team in the comp with all our errors and the amount of tackling we did. They must have done something right.

EDIT: Here is the play. Watch Teddy. Tell me he didn't call that play.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKa19...ZkN2JianhncXZ5

I think you have misinterpreted my point.

The Raiders game is a bad example of where an organising halfback could've influenced the result IMO and I wrote it off as such when I said "No side is overcoming a ton of fundamental errors like no pressure drops in yardage". We were both equal parts lucky and very good defensively to keep that game so close. I think the better examples in terms of games that could've impacted more positively by a strong organising halfback are the Warrior, Rabbitohs & Panthers (2nd time) games.

I'm also not taking a shot at Savala I'm just providing a recent example where a half's decision making can lead to and compound errors (it was the first example that popped into my head). There's no doubt that call was pre-meditated and you can tell because Savala never opens up his body to kick, who called it or whether they've practiced it at training is irrelevant a good organising half needs to be confident enough to overrule bad calls and take the low percentage play there especially after we've just been defending our own line for a long period of time.

I'm very happy with Savala at 7 and think he will continue to develop nicely this year next to Sam Walker, on the scale of things Savala more often than not takes the low percentage play which is why I think he's a better fit for Sam Walker.

DCE on the other hand like I said is an attack first minded player which means either Sam Walker needs to develop himself into an organising halfback quick smart or I think we will have the same issues as 2024 where we can out attack 95% of the competition but struggle to stay in games against the top 5% who are elite at knowing how to control a game.

[Rooster_6]

How could a half stem the flow of errors though unless they pass the ball to themselves?

Was it a bad pass to Tedesco from Hugo though ?

All know the errors from Mark Nawaqanitawase in the Bulldogs and Raiders games were costly - even Coach Robinson acknowledged this in the pressers -" he's got a choice and there’s just a couple of slight tweaks there that he needs to do to fix that up"

Not sure what game you watch at times but all can see you favour players and those you favour are never criticised.

You were on Dom Young's case from day one but crickets about Mark Nawaqanitawase - 25 errors ( Number 1) including 21 handling errors ( 3)

Dogs - 6 errors - 6 handling errors -2 tries conceded as a result - lost 24-20
Sharks - 2 errors - 2 handling errors - 0 tries - won 42-16
Raiders - 4 errors - 3 handling errors - 2 tries conceded as a result - lost 26-24

How do you manage to turn every thread into a Dom Young sob story.

If you can't see the talent of Mark Nawaqanitawase then I can't help you mate.

[Inflictor]

I think you have misinterpreted my point.

The Raiders game is a bad example of where an organising halfback could've influenced the result IMO and I wrote it off as such when I said "No side is overcoming a ton of fundamental errors like no pressure drops in yardage". We were both equal parts lucky and very good defensively to keep that game so close. I think the better examples in terms of games that could've impacted more positively by a strong organising halfback are the Warrior, Rabbitohs & Panthers (2nd time) games.

I'm also not taking a shot at Savala I'm just providing a recent example where a half's decision making can lead to and compound errors (it was the first example that popped into my head). There's no doubt that call was pre-meditated and you can tell because Savala never opens up his body to kick, who called it or whether they've practiced it at training is irrelevant a good organising half needs to be confident enough to overrule bad calls and take the low percentage play there especially after we've just been defending our own line for a long period of time.

I'm very happy with Savala at 7 and think he will continue to develop nicely this year next to Sam Walker, on the scale of things Savala more often than not takes the low percentage play which is why I think he's a better fit for Sam Walker.

DCE on the other hand like I said is an attack first minded player which means either Sam Walker needs to develop himself into an organising halfback quick smart or I think we will have the same issues as 2024 where we can out attack 95% of the competition but struggle to stay in games against the top 5% who are elite at knowing how to control a game.

Agree

[dice]

I just can’t understand this decision from DCE’s perspective..

After playing 14 seasons at the same Club and also captaining them why would you switch to one of their rivals for one or possibly two years at the age of 37,what’s the thought process behind it?

Wouldn’t it be better to either retire or go play overseas?

Very confusing from his end to be honest.

I presume much like Cronk it is more to do with the best interests of partner and family. The chance to remain in Sydney, and with a club that promises to assist with the transition into retirement.

[Bates]

The Dragons are the perfect fit for DCE.

Flanno loves a has-been and he get's to live in Sydney.

[Bates]

Of course Tedesco called that play as anyone could see. - No issue with trying something though but blaming another player is mmm

Rooster_6's view is set completions doesn't matter and would rather have 20 quality sets out of 40 rather than 35 so called average sets out 40 set completions

mmm Penrith averaged 82% in set completions through their premiership years - Roosters set completion vs Raiders was 65% - that tells the story right there in how important set completions is

Game Possession % is also important too - Penrith around 54% those premiership years.

Possession is 9 tenths of the law.

R6 is correct. You simply don't get it!

Stick to Ping Pong