Official Match Day Thread: Roosters v Bulldogs

[Mickie Lane]

You don’t get to criticise me and then try and finesse your way out of allowing me to respond by saying “we agree to disagree”… because I don’t.

Saying 5 times out of 10 is exactly the same as 50/50, that is not over analysis that is just common sense. I think you’re drawing a false equivalence between the game being close and the outcome of the game.

I was really impressed by our power game in the first 40minutes last night, I don’t think Ciraldo gave us enough credit post game, we genuinely outplayed them in that first half and earnt our dominance in possession, wasn’t like the Bullodgs were making multiple errors or penalties to gift us that field position and ensuing run of possession, we earnt it. Which admittedly I didn’t see that coming, certainly not how dominant we were.

However the conclusion of the game was very predictable for me, I said this earlier in the week in the thread about how we beat the Bulldogs;



The Bulldogs are basing their game very similarly around the attritional based game the Panthers did, not surprising given Ciraldo came from that system. It’s all about we’re only going to give you 2-3 tries a game and then see if you can stay with us and beat us with only 2-3 tries on the board.

We couldn’t because we showed the same defensive frailties we did in tight games against the Rabbitohs and the Warriors.

Bulldogs winning that game was not a 50/50 chance luck, because as I said we continue to keep losing those games and they continue to keep winning those games so at what point do you start to rule out 50/50 “luck” and start attributing it to our inability to defend our way to a victory?

Leave me alone r6
I stopped reading after 6 words because you couldnt be further from the truth, Im not critising anyone I was having a conversation/debate with you, I never disrespected you in any way
You're the winner.
Have the last say.

[roostermcgregor]

Whoever thinks that the Roosters were a 50/50 chance of winning last night, or that we were unlucky to lose, need to stop hallucinating.
We we’re belted off the park and had no chance of winning.
Second half statistics posted by King Salvo earlier in this thread - Running metres 2nd Half Bulldogs 941 metres, Roosters 594 metres.
You will never win a game, with stats like that.

[SamKerrSimp]

With Whyte out for a few weeks who is playing front row next week?

Fark me, is he really injured? We've definitely been cursed after the back to back.

[Vasco]

With Whyte out for a few weeks who is playing front row next week?

[Crab]

mmm They kicked you off the Souffs site after you ridiculed Bennett saying he should be in a retirement village and was past his use buy date as a coach- There can't be two Rocky Rhodes

This instagram account for Rocky Rhodes may shed some light on our 'fowl' tempered Souff supporting little friend , ha ha .. look up _rockyrhodes_ on instagram, he's some queer wrestler come drag king .

[Bates]

Great D!

We'll need to keep playing footy and find at least 12 more points as they'll come at us if they jag one.

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[Bates]

This.
Roosters lost the game last night , as we were beaten in the forwards in the second half.
How does that happen when you have supposedly 4 good forwards on the bench, and you are playing against a depleted Bulldogs pack?
We should have romped to a win.
Without Spencer on the field , our pack looks lame.
Our top priority should be to buy an aggressive front rower , if we can’t develop one within.
The tries by Xerri & Burton would never have happened if our forwards were dominating field position , or weren’t exhausted.
Again, how does it happen, when we have named 10 forwards in the 17?
Marky was atrocious under the high ball, but it didn’t help that Burton was kicking on the last from deep on our side of halfway, and the dogs were pouring through to put pressure on him.
Same thing happened against the Riff a few weeks back - that night , we got dominated in the forwards.
I’m waiting to see if Robbo puts a rocket up the forwards- surely the young guys are realising that you need to bash the opposition , and win the physical battle, if you want to make a name for yourself, and win games.

We lost it before that.

The game was lost when we decided to stop moving the ball around in the second half and defend our way to victory. If it was Robbo's call then he didn't do his homework on the Bulldogs!

I'll post what I said at half time below.

[roostermcgregor]

The bench rotation in the 2nd half was poor

Collins was gassed and a liability in D
steep was getting pushed backwards and offered no go forward
Egan butch was doing Egan things

We needed to bring Whyte on earlier
and Spencer 8 min? Seriously wtf

the 40-60 min mark we lost it

This.
Roosters lost the game last night , as we were beaten in the forwards in the second half.
How does that happen when you have supposedly 4 good forwards on the bench, and you are playing against a depleted Bulldogs pack?
We should have romped to a win.
Without Spencer on the field , our pack looks lame.
Our top priority should be to buy an aggressive front rower , if we can’t develop one within.
The tries by Xerri & Burton would never have happened if our forwards were dominating field position , or weren’t exhausted.
Again, how does it happen, when we have named 10 forwards in the 17?
Marky was atrocious under the high ball, but it didn’t help that Burton was kicking on the last from deep on our side of halfway, and the dogs were pouring through to put pressure on him.
Same thing happened against the Riff a few weeks back - that night , we got dominated in the forwards.
I’m waiting to see if Robbo puts a rocket up the forwards- surely the young guys are realising that you need to bash the opposition , and win the physical battle, if you want to make a name for yourself, and win games.

[Rooster_6]

You go way to much into depth & over analyze big time.
5 times out of 10? WTF
I was talking about 1 game the game last night that was 50/50 IMO.
You dont think it was, lets move on. We agree to disagree.

You don’t get to criticise me and then try and finesse your way out of allowing me to respond by saying “we agree to disagree”… because I don’t.

Saying 5 times out of 10 is exactly the same as 50/50, that is not over analysis that is just common sense. I think you’re drawing a false equivalence between the game being close and the outcome of the game.

I was really impressed by our power game in the first 40minutes last night, I don’t think Ciraldo gave us enough credit post game, we genuinely outplayed them in that first half and earnt our dominance in possession, wasn’t like the Bullodgs were making multiple errors or penalties to gift us that field position and ensuing run of possession, we earnt it. Which admittedly I didn’t see that coming, certainly not how dominant we were.

However the conclusion of the game was very predictable for me, I said this earlier in the week in the thread about how we beat the Bulldogs;

Will be all about defence, based on form the Dogs aren’t going to give us more than 2-3 tries so it’s all about keeping them to under 18pts, which based on our defensive showings so far this year I still think we are a long way off that.

The Bulldogs are basing their game very similarly around the attritional based game the Panthers did, not surprising given Ciraldo came from that system. It’s all about we’re only going to give you 2-3 tries a game and then see if you can stay with us and beat us with only 2-3 tries on the board.

We couldn’t because we showed the same defensive frailties we did in tight games against the Rabbitohs and the Warriors.

Bulldogs winning that game was not a 50/50 chance luck, because as I said we continue to keep losing those games and they continue to keep winning those games so at what point do you start to rule out 50/50 “luck” and start attributing it to our inability to defend our way to a victory?

[bondi paul]

Does he get dropped to the bench for those efforts?

Yes and also for his longevity and for the team. I’d have Foketi in and ZDC miss out with Radley filling in for Watson when he has a spell. Radley better used this way as his thinking and positioning aligned. In the interim he can drop some kilos and work on his speed.

[SamKerrSimp]

I'd rather read Rooster6's so called "over analysis" than the usual "this guy is shit that guy is shit the team sucks" that regurgitates after every loss. Don't change please R6

[Mickie Lane]

I don't believe we win that game 5 times out of 10, you just can't win those types of games with the types of defensive errors we continue to make through the middle.

Was great to see us competitive but we failed to close it out, same as we have a few times this year. That's not just bad luck.

You go way to much into depth & over analyze big time.
5 times out of 10? WTF
I was talking about 1 game the game last night that was 50/50 IMO.
You dont think it was, lets move on. We agree to disagree.

[BTRD]

No matter who leaves and how many new players come into the team the errors have never gone away. So disappointing.

Agree 100%

[ChookMaster]

I said here before the season started that Radley and Collins are our weak links due to their lack of speed and mobility. Both have had their use by date. It’s now Rads 8th season and I don’t see him getting any better. That last effort in letting in the match winner last night was unforgiveable. A game which we lost rather than the bullscum winning.

Does he get dropped to the bench for those efforts?

[bondi paul]

I said here before the season started that Radley and Collins are our weak links due to their lack of speed and mobility. Both have had their use by date. It’s now Rads 8th season and I don’t see him getting any better. That last effort in letting in the match winner last night was unforgiveable. A game which we lost rather than the bullscum winning.