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  • SamKerrSimp
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    Originally posted by BigCok007 View Post

    Fair, but same could be said for DCE. Parra and Manly stay in the fight in a fair amount of games because both Moses and DCE have big boots. It’s not everything, I acknowledged that. You need a solid team around you, and that half needs to be able to pull the strings. But having big kicks can help keep you in the arm wrestle longer.
    Parra haven't "been in the fight" since the 2022 semi finals and Manly stay in it because they have some world class forwards who give them punch to break the opposition line. We lost the arm wrestle in the 2019 grand final despite having Cooper Cronk in the team, ball control and a runners who can bend the line are why Melbourne and Penrith are dominating not because of how long their halves kick the ball.

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  • ism22
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    Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post

    We need experienced halves ready to go from the start of game one in 2025.
    Chad and Sandon will be up for it, I believe.
    Yeah I reckon experience will be the big thing. He's played almost 300 games and won a premiership. Makes him a good partner for an inexperienced half.

    Be interesting to see who does what but can't see this as being a bad thing.

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  • ChookMaster
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    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

    Yeah but how often does Toops drop a bomb like that? We were overwhelmed from every angle in that 1st half.
    He also dropped one against Burton in the rain mate.

    Another renowned huge kicker.

    Last edited by ChookMaster; 12-10-2024, 09:07 PM.

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  • bondi.boy
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    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
    I was hoping we signed Hunt purely to prevent Chad T getting any game time for us. I cannot fathom how there could be any excitement for this guy coming. He got dropped by the Cowboys for Jake farrking Clifford. They played better without him. He was average in his 20s in his prime and is even worse now in his 30s.

    I guess its good we have an experienced half to back up Sam while he's injured but we could've gotten the same value out of a rookie and bled them into the NRL and given them key experience.
    We need experienced halves ready to go from the start of game one in 2025.
    Chad and Sandon will be up for it, I believe.
    Last edited by bondi.boy; 12-10-2024, 08:27 PM.

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  • HunchoRooster
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    Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post


    How about when Toups dropped a high bomb off Clez early in the first final? I’m sure they scored off that set and started dominating from that moment onwards.

    We’ve been lacking someone with a proper boot on them for years.
    Yeah but how often does Toops drop a bomb like that? We were overwhelmed from every angle in that 1st half.

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  • ChookMaster
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    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

    Usually disagree with nearly everything you say lol. However this is exactly what I have been saying. Yes it's good to have a long boot in the team to get us out of trouble but the good teams are not the good teams because their halves can kick it really far. It is not the be all end all.

    It's about getting the first 4 tackles of the set right and defending our line. These are 2 areas that the Riff and Melb do infinitely better than us.

    How about when Toups dropped a high bomb off Clez early in the first final? I’m sure they scored off that set and started dominating from that moment onwards.

    We’ve been lacking someone with a proper boot on them for years.

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  • Bates
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    Chaddy may be a little rusty.

    We'll need to be patient.

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  • Inflictor
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    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
    I was hoping we signed Hunt purely to prevent Chad T getting any game time for us. I cannot fathom how there could be any excitement for this guy coming. He got dropped by the Cowboys for Jake farrking Clifford. They played better without him. He was average in his 20s in his prime and is even worse now in his 30s.

    I guess its good we have an experienced half to back up Sam while he's injured but we could've gotten the same value out of a rookie and bled them into the NRL and given them key experience.
    Who's to say we won't be using one of the young guys for a few games?
    We didn't sign Townsend to play half a season while Sammy is out. Unfortunately the Roosters injury jinx hit us late in the season after we signed him.
    I believe he will add value mentoring our young halves now that Keary is gone. I'm sure that was the reason he was signed.
    He might start the season but if we aren't winning games Elliot might get a few games.

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  • HunchoRooster
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    I was hoping we signed Hunt purely to prevent Chad T getting any game time for us. I cannot fathom how there could be any excitement for this guy coming. He got dropped by the Cowboys for Jake farrking Clifford. They played better without him. He was average in his 20s in his prime and is even worse now in his 30s.

    I guess its good we have an experienced half to back up Sam while he's injured but we could've gotten the same value out of a rookie and bled them into the NRL and given them key experience.

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  • HunchoRooster
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    Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

    Mitchell Moses has arguably the longest kicking game in the league how is that going for Parramatta? Penrith and Melbourne give their halves quality field position to put in kicks that's where the difference lies it has nothing to do with how long Cleary or Hughes can kick it.
    Usually disagree with nearly everything you say lol. However this is exactly what I have been saying. Yes it's good to have a long boot in the team to get us out of trouble but the good teams are not the good teams because their halves can kick it really far. It is not the be all end all.

    It's about getting the first 4 tackles of the set right and defending our line. These are 2 areas that the Riff and Melb do infinitely better than us.

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  • Inflictor
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    Originally posted by Horry View Post
    I thought it was Nanai's highlights reel.

    FFS

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  • nayfo
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    Originally posted by Horry View Post
    Thanks for the share but to be brutally honest none of those were creative, most were simple catch and pass hardly worthy of a try assist and the rest off kicks. Some were complete stab in the dark bombs in the middle and lucky that the edge back rowers latched onto some lucky bounces.

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  • BigCok007
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    Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post

    Mitchell Moses has arguably the longest kicking game in the league how is that going for Parramatta? Penrith and Melbourne give their halves quality field position to put in kicks that's where the difference lies it has nothing to do with how long Cleary or Hughes can kick it.
    Fair, but same could be said for DCE. Parra and Manly stay in the fight in a fair amount of games because both Moses and DCE have big boots. It’s not everything, I acknowledged that. You need a solid team around you, and that half needs to be able to pull the strings. But having big kicks can help keep you in the arm wrestle longer.

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  • SamKerrSimp
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    Originally posted by BigCok007 View Post

    Kicking game can turn a poor set into a great one. So is pretty key to Storm and Panfers being so dominant.

    take your point, it’s not everything but it’s a pretty sizeable advantage
    Mitchell Moses has arguably the longest kicking game in the league how is that going for Parramatta? Penrith and Melbourne give their halves quality field position to put in kicks that's where the difference lies it has nothing to do with how long Cleary or Hughes can kick it.

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  • ChookMaster
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    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

    You'll have to backdate it given I said it 2 months ago haha. Point still stands though. There are far greater issues with the way we play but I do acknowledge that we don't have anyone to kick us out of trouble, which is always a luxury and improves a team.

    I don't think Mr. Townsend will improve the long kicking deficiency anyway.
    We need someone who can kick us out of trouble and then force an error off a huge spiraling bomb.

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