Referees in revolt against Harrigan and Raper

[player 1]

Bill is happy with video refs getting 97% of the decisions right. What he conveniently forgets to mention is that in probably 70% of all video referrals, the decision is cut and dried. Its the 'grey area' or 'fine line' decisions that are the issue and it would be interesting to know what percentage of these decisions are coming back as a correct call. I would be confident it would be well below his 97% pass mark and closer to 50-60% which isn't good enough in my opinion.

The other issue is 2 referees. Bill refuses to admit that it hasn't been a success when its pretty obvious that the major issue players/coaches/fans etc have with referees is consistency. You just can't possibly get consistency in calls when you have two different people deciding what is and isn't a penalty etc. Some of our rules are so subjective that it is just not humanly possible. Each referee has a different standard for deciding how long is too long when holding down in a tackle for example and this is what frustrates fans and players alike.

As a Roosters fan, I can see that probably about 90% of the penalties we incur are warranted. But what annoys me is that when the opposition infringe in the same manner, in a lot of cases it is not ruled as a penalty in our favour. Get rid of the two referees and I think a lot of the consistency issues are taken out of the game.

All good points.

[Guest]

lol Ben Ikin comes out and slams Freddy about meeting with Gallop

[Hawkeye]

The only good thing I can think of that the ref's have brought in under Harrigan, is the fact now that if a player plays on after the "held" call (which may have been lineball or just not heard by the player), the ref's tell them to go back and play it, rather than issuing a mandatory penalty ....... other than that, I can't think of too many improvements ?

[Guest]

The only good thing I can think of that the ref's have brought in under Harrigan, is the fact now that if a player plays on after the "held" call (which may have been lineball or just not heard by the player), the ref's tell them to go back and play it, rather than issuing a mandatory penalty ....... other than that, I can't think of too many improvements ?

Pretty sure Gus said that was Luke Phillips idea

[Guest]

When a team is under pressure a lot of people will come out & say that it's not the coach dropping the ball & missing the tackles etc. It's not Bill missing the dropped balls, forward passes & allowing tries that clearly aren't. I'm no fan of the way Bill has handled the refs blunders but I am worried that he'll be made the scapegoat by the current crop of useless & incompetent whistle blowers just to take the pressure of themselves.

Bill is a scapegoat of the NRL he must now b ear punishment for years of shonky decisions on a weekly basis for every referee in the NRL. To blame one ref on one wrong ruling and being relieved of his position, treats the Rugby League supporters as imbeciles. The new commission is making waves for the NRL How long have the league supporters complained about the Mcintyre system and been ignored, immediately after the new commission is formed the mcintyre system is ousted. they also promised sackings for bad refs figurehead Bill already on the way out,Players to have more representation on the game itself and Gallops job starting to look dusty, things are changing for the betterment of Rugby Leagues revolution.

[roosterproud]

Bill is happy with video refs getting 97% of the decisions right. What he conveniently forgets to mention is that in probably 70% of all video referrals, the decision is cut and dried. Its the 'grey area' or 'fine line' decisions that are the issue and it would be interesting to know what percentage of these decisions are coming back as a correct call. I would be confident it would be well below his 97% pass mark and closer to 50-60% which isn't good enough in my opinion.

The other issue is 2 referees. Bill refuses to admit that it hasn't been a success when its pretty obvious that the major issue players/coaches/fans etc have with referees is consistency. You just can't possibly get consistency in calls when you have two different people deciding what is and isn't a penalty etc. Some of our rules are so subjective that it is just not humanly possible. Each referee has a different standard for deciding how long is too long when holding down in a tackle for example and this is what frustrates fans and players alike.

As a Roosters fan, I can see that probably about 90% of the penalties we incur are warranted. But what annoys me is that when the opposition infringe in the same manner, in a lot of cases it is not ruled as a penalty in our favour. Get rid of the two referees and I think a
lot of the consistency issues are taken out of the game.

yeh alot of good points. better the devil ya know in this case. archer is a scmuck, lucky to count to 20 with thinking about it.

where are all the old refs. mccallum for eg. i know he was the superleague ref boss for a awhile, be he would be good and he was a great ref.

or another option is to employ a few serious and fair type of retrired footy players. not involved with any club directly. maybe cayless, belcher, or that sort of player.

or option 2 is to have each club to have their own reresentitive on reffering to voice the refs errors to them and what the refs can do to improve their quality of reffing. footballers are proffesionals and the refs are amatuers. maybe the refs should train with teams

[Guest]

lol Ben Ikin comes out and slams Freddy about meeting with Gallop

His father in law most probably had a word to him to say something
After all this carnt has gained the most of the current shambles we have as referees

[theGman]

yeh alot of good points. better the devil ya know in this case. archer is a scmuck, lucky to count to 20 with thinking about it.

where are all the old refs. mccallum for eg. i know he was the superleague ref boss for a awhile, be he would be good and he was a great ref.

or another option is to employ a few serious and fair type of retrired footy players. not involved with any club directly. maybe cayless, belcher, or that sort of player.
or option 2 is to have each club to have their own reresentitive on reffering to voice the refs errors to them and what the refs can do to improve their quality of reffing. footballers are proffesionals and the refs are amatuers. maybe the refs should train with teams

Didn't work with Peter Louie (ex Norths coach). Harrigant pulls Stuart Raper's strings.

[Guest]

Love Freddy! Favourite rooster of all time. I said in another thread a week ago, Harrigan's biggest problem is trying to cover his own ar@e. Instead of just admitting fault then trying to find ways to fix the issues/problems/faults, he keeps coming up with his own justification simply to cover his ar@e. Give yourself an uppercut Bill.

[Guest]

They should get Freddy to run the referee's that way there would be a lot less whinging about the refs here on the chookpen.

[SConcierge]

They should get Freddy to run the referee's that way there would be a lot less whinging about the refs here on the chookpen.

I think its a good idea he has a comprehensive understanding of the game he has touch. A lot of people think he is a dumb goose and he is a bit silly but he hams it up most of the time especially when he gets nervous it is his default! I have played golf with Freddy and had some nice dinners with him and the missus and I can tell you the guy is far far far from dumb.

[Hawkeye]

Bring back Dennis Spagarino

[Waylander]

What happened to Diamond by the way? I haven't seen him assigned a game this year, and I thought he was one of the better ones?

[Cockadoodledoo]

I think its a good idea he has a comprehensive understanding of the game he has touch. A lot of people think he is a dumb goose and he is a bit silly but he hams it up most of the time especially when he gets nervous it is his default! I have played golf with Freddy and had some nice dinners with him and the missus and I can tell you the guy is far far far from dumb.

You are right about that.. Serious Freddy actually is a very smart guy.

[kakaruk]

Bring back the grasshopper lol.Whatever happened to him?