Last week's kick off.......

[Guest]

Explains a lot.

All the people I was sitting around, quite a few blokes from this forum actually, were all applauding the use of the short kickoff to start the game.

And watching the replay today all the commentators were similarly minded about the tactic.

They all commented how the shock value alone made the ploy very appealing. Sterlo said he couldn't recall a start to a game quite like it, but emphasized he liked it a lot.

I'm amazed at this thread to be honest, especially considering the tactic worked in as far as us regathering possession.

Next you will be telling us you and Fredos section of the crowd didn't think we deserved to win.

No actually were pretty up beat about the win, especially after Perrett's try where everyone went nuts.

The worst reaction was when every time anasta caught the ball and would stop and spin around and run back across the line. That drew some f bombs from those sitting along side of me. I noticed that especially seeing I was with my kids.

[Guest]

This proves that even if Anasta makes a great decision and puts us on the front foot in the first few seconds of the game people will still complain..

[Guest]

I am guessing, having had the Anzac Day game ripped out from their rightful grasp by a short kick-off, against which Smith graciously took the blame for not having practiced defending, that the team planned to execute this play as a surprise ploy. I don't remember it ever being done as a starting kick off to an NRL game before. It worked perfectly and deserves nothing but congratulations. Had it failed, the consequences were an extra 30 metres conceded to the knights, with 79 and a half minutes of the game remaining to make up for the failed ploy.

Anasta has not lived up to the hopes he would be another Freddy, but his shortcomings have been far outweighed by the unbelievably vitriolic and unreasonable vilification, typified by your moronic post, leveled against him by frustrated wannabes.

It's all a game of momentum mate. That extra 30 metres can put big dent in our hopes.

Every time I go to a chooks match, you can read the body language of the players and notice whether they think they can win games. I remember once I went to a manly game where we lost like 56-0, where we tried high risk plays like this and ended up regretting it by half time.

I'm just watching the broncos manly game and tbh we are light years away from them especially with ball running. I hope we can improve on that.

[Guest]

I havnt read the rest of the posts here so I am sorry if its already been said but I reckon it was brilliant and we should see more of it. Why wait until the game has 2 mins to go to try it and everyone is expecting it? Why not take the chance at the start when you have the rest of the match tp pull it back if it fails? Get it back, you have only have 30-35 odd meters to go to score against a side stunned by the start of the match. Get it wrong and they start to run the ball out from 65-70 out. Whooopdy dooo!

[Guest]

This proves that even if Anasta makes a great decision and puts us on the front foot in the first few seconds of the game people will still complain..

Again I was not the only one who was complaining and I was not totally against it but I was pointing out a facet of his game.

How many times have we seen cut out passes gone to the sideline ref when even if the winger caught it there were 2 defenders in front of him. Foran for example is a much better player because he knows when to take risks.

I just hope we can make something of this year.

[player 1]

It's all a game of momentum mate. That extra 30 metres can put big dent in our hopes.

Every time I go to a chooks match, you can read the body language of the players and notice whether they think they can win games. I remember once I went to a manly game where we lost like 56-0, where we tried high risk plays like this and ended up regretting it by half time.

I'm just watching the broncos manly game and tbh we are light years away from them especially with ball running. I hope we can improve on that.

Well at least you go to the games - for that I salute you.

I read in another thread that "John" aka "Madduke", had worked out the economics and decided it was more cost effective to purchase foxtel so he has attended 2 games in the last 5 years or so.

Believe it or not, it can make a big difference to our side's performance having supporters at the ground yelling their support.

See you out there...

[Guest]

Well at least you go to the games - for that I salute you.

I read in another thread that "John" aka "Madduke", had worked out the economics and decided it was more cost effective to purchase foxtel so he has attended 2 games in the last 5 years or so.

Believe it or not, it can make a big difference to our side's performance having supporters at the ground yelling their support.

See you out there...

Mate turn on the tv right now and look at the stands in suncorp. You couldn't kill someone for a seat.

Everyone comes on this website saying we should buy their players..................

but there is no way in the world, any of them would move a muscle out of Red hill with crowds like that cheering them on. The feeling is contagious and that's why any player they want will go to their club. The attitude that john has is the exact same problem which got us here.

At grandfinals and big games like Anzac day we get more than 30,000-40,000 chooks fans easily. But on normal everyday games we never get more than 12,000. Half or more of the seats at SFS were empty. How can we expect players to come and play for us unless we pay overs????

[Guest]

I havnt read the rest of the posts here so I am sorry if its already been said but I reckon it was brilliant and we should see more of it. Why wait until the game has 2 mins to go to try it and everyone is expecting it? Why not take the chance at the start when you have the rest of the match tp pull it back if it fails? Get it back, you have only have 30-35 odd meters to go to score against a side stunned by the start of the match. Get it wrong and they start to run the ball out from 65-70 out. Whooopdy dooo!

There's a reason why all the top sides don't do it, and that is because it's extremely flukey.

I'd rather we don't try it and try a different ploy like more grubber and chip kicks in attack when we are 30+ m out, rather than a bomb which no one from our team can chase in time to catch.

It seems that everytime we bomb it from 30 m out,

Carney tried chip kicks very often and many times it would pay off.

[Guest]

Carney tried chip kicks very often and many times it would pay off.

Maloney can chip quick admirably.

[Guest]

There's a reason why all the top sides don't do it, and that is because it's extremely flukey.

I'd rather we don't try it and try a different ploy like more grubber and chip kicks in attack when we are 30+ m out, rather than a bomb which no one from our team can chase in time to catch.

It seems that everytime we bomb it from 30 m out,

Carney tried chip kicks very often and many times it would pay off.

And sometimes a game needs the bounce of the ball to go your way so take a punt every now and then. If you fluke it, great... your a good shot a scoring. If you dont... you probably dont get points put on you. Theres a better chance to score from that flukey play than the risk of it backfiring with points being scored against you. Hey, and at least its one less shot at bwaiff putting it out on the full hey?!?!

[Spirit of 66]

Reading all the replies from the risk averse on this forum makes me wonder how they would have coped in the days of a real risk taker like Russell Fairfax. He'd do unbelievably risky things which, more often than not, would produce spectacular rewards.

Today's game is boring. We need more risk takers.

[The Prowler]

Obviously the team has been doing their homework after they failed to nullify the short kick off last week that cost them the game.
And they were able to produce that on the field where it counts. Thats what its all about. Brilliant stuff.

[stsae]

Carney tried chip kicks very often and many times it would pay off.

IMO chips are as low a % play as a short kick off that we saw to start last Sunday's game. Not something to use too often but occasionally it's a great play.

It's fine for a Carntey to try the chip, he has the pace to regather and he is an off the cuff style player. That's his thang.

In this current team we don't really have a 1 or 6 or 7 or 9 who are really those sort of players. Mortein could maybe do something similar but currently he obviously isn't in the coaches plans.

Baloney will be our best chance for that style of high risk play next season.

[stsae]

Reading all the replies from the risk averse on this forum makes me wonder how they would have coped in the days of a real risk taker like Russell Fairfax. He'd do unbelievably risky things which, more often than not, would produce spectacular rewards.

Today's game is boring. We need more risk takers.

I think you need to have instinctive off the cuff players to try risky plays mate.

Currently we don't really have anyone to do these things.

Maybe with Baloney next season.

[Juggler]

There's a reason why all the top sides don't do it, and that is because it's extremely flukey.

I'd rather we don't try it and try a different ploy like more grubber and chip kicks in attack when we are 30+ m out, rather than a bomb which no one from our team can chase in time to catch.

It seems that everytime we bomb it from 30 m out,

Carney tried chip kicks very often and many times it would pay off.

Have to get to 30m out? Oh wait. I think that short kick-off got us to the 30m.

And a chip or a grubber... The ball is an oval shape. What if we chip kicked or grubbered from 30 out and a defender caught it and ran 70m to score? Oh no. It's Anasta's fault. Just like when we lost every game in '66.

And another thing. I remember Anasta running in a circle once. Let's say twice. Oh no, he tried to do something! Do you go off every time Perrett goes from dummy half? Or whenever SKD runs across the field? FFS.