Cancelling Rooster privilege

[Bates]

Not sure you got the point - people criticise anything and everything but not many say oh sod this I can do better and go the extra mile as they say - i.e in this case folk should do the refs course and become a ref as there is a difference in having to make the decisions than that of purely criticising the decisions made.

As I said folk have been complaining about match officials ever since organised sport started and in 100 years time if it's not an advanced whiz bang match official systems making the calls them folk will still be complaining about match officials.

One of my favourite sports is baseball and there is always issues with umpiring - ball and strike calls and a lot of heated moments between batters and umpires and managers and umpires over these calls especially in close games and post season play off games/world series

Part of the theatre including the umpires throwing players and managers out of the game.

They have been trialling an automated ball/strike system (ABS) in AAA which is planned to be introduced into the MLB sometime in the near future - The ball/strike call is relayed to a wired-up plate umpire to make the call

Who can the batter or manager complain to about the call - nothing the plate umpire can do about it as they are being relayed the call.

Takes the human element away which some say the bunker is doing and they such as Gus Gould often advocate for less bunker involvement

I get all that but what I'm saying is when the Bunker get's it so wrong with countless angles and all their training and experience it makes you wonder if the outcome of that game was engineered. Having watched more games than most officials put together, I don't need my referees ticket to know what's right and what smells fishy.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Possibly the King has stats on our Captain's Challenge success rate this season? It seems to me that it is pretty high if you discount the occasions when it is used to give the side a breather or to reorganise the defence. I was never quite convinced that there was an anti Rooster bias but the apparent challenge successes up to now have gone some way to making me think otherwise.

In 2022, Tedesco was the most successful challenger with a whopping 65% success rate.

[ism22]

You're cancelled mate... for being RWB Roosters privileged.

[ism22]

I get all that but what I'm saying is when the Bunker get's it so wrong with countless angles and all their training and experience it makes you wonder if the outcome of that game was engineered. Having watched more games than most officials put together, I don't need my referees ticket to know what's right and what smells fishy.

IMO the issue with 'just doing the ref course' is that I'd totally do it. However, there would likely be no path towards me replacing Klein/Sutton/Gee within the next 100 years. The NRL has decided they are awesome and that's that.

Having previously been a basketball ref (during uni), my foggy memory of it all is that there were a LOT of levels to grind through and beyond a point, everything's invitational. I suspect the furthest I'd get is being able to ref some pretty junior games either on a volunteer basis or something like $30 a game.

I get that you've gotta serve the grassroots (otherwise everybody would just wanna ref the NRL). However, the pool of NRL refs is a TINY number of people who've been invited to ref professional games. It's not as if there's a big pool of professional refs that they draw from with Klein/Sutton being one of 50-100 possible refs that they rotate through.

How many refs are there anyway? Klein, Sutton, Gee, Cummins... I don't see the others reffing our games very often and would dare say most of the 'elite refs' in the pool are actually just touchies (see list at https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/).

Dunno what else to say. It's a bit like my recent experience with insurance assessors. We had snow in our suburb (it was odd) and it crushed our brand new, architecturally designed flat roof + blocked the gutters with ice so we got backflor. The damage itself was only ~$3000 and I ended up just paying it outta pocket coz I got sick of idiot 'assessors' coming in and saying 'that's a maintenance issue' or 'I cannot see the damage'. Unfortunately simps occupy a lot of these roles. Such is life and I have about as much interest in retraining as an NRL ref as I do in retraining as a building assessor.

[Bates]

IMO the issue with 'just doing the ref course' is that I'd totally do it. However, there would likely be no path towards me replacing Klein/Sutton/Gee within the next 100 years. The NRL has decided they are awesome and that's that.

Having previously been a basketball ref (during uni), my foggy memory of it all is that there were a LOT of levels to grind through and beyond a point, everything's invitational. I suspect the furthest I'd get is being able to ref some pretty junior games either on a volunteer basis or something like $30 a game.

I get that you've gotta serve the grassroots (otherwise everybody would just wanna ref the NRL). However, the pool of NRL refs is a TINY number of people who've been invited to ref professional games. It's not as if there's a big pool of professional refs that they draw from with Klein/Sutton being one of 50-100 possible refs that they rotate through.

How many refs are there anyway? Klein, Sutton, Gee, Cummins... I don't see the others reffing our games very often and would dare say most of the 'elite refs' in the pool are actually just touchies (see list at https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/).

Dunno what else to say. It's a bit like my recent experience with insurance assessors. We had snow in our suburb (it was odd) and it crushed our brand new, architecturally designed flat roof + blocked the gutters with ice so we got backflor. The damage itself was only ~$3000 and I ended up just paying it outta pocket coz I got sick of idiot 'assessors' coming in and saying 'that's a maintenance issue' or 'I cannot see the damage'. Unfortunately simps occupy a lot of these roles. Such is life and I have about as much interest in retraining as an NRL ref as I do in retraining as a building assessor.

Cool story bro.

[ccfc bondi]

There is no doubt that home crowds at least, can have an impact on refs. At games there's been many occasions where I can feel a penalty coming, quite often just to shut the crowd up, and to shut the away crowd too, if they're noisy or South Sydney enough! Refs have known over the years that Roosters crowds are relatively quiet, which is one reason they don't seem to give a toss. There's a lunatic Souths commenter on The Roar who is convinced there's a 'Triumvirate' conspiracy from the NRL that wants the Storm, Penrith and Roosters to win, even though the Roosters are year-by-year up there with the most heavily penalised teams in the comp. While Souths, who always seem to me to get away with a lot, are never given a fair go (which he wrote a few days after Latrell whacked a guy in the head when he got up to play the ball and didn't even get a warning).

[King Salvo]

NRL Captains Challenge Stats for 2022. - I will look for 2023

Only 6 teams with 50% or better captains challenge success rates

1. Penrith most successful with 7 out of 12 - 58.33 %
2. Souths with 11 out of 19 - 57.89%
3. Manly with 9 out of 16 - 56.25%
4. Roosters equal 4th with Parramatta with 13 out of 24 - 54.16 % success rate
5. Storm 10 out of 20 - 50%

Warriors the lowest with 2 out of 15 - 13.33%

Titans the most challenges with 28 - 10 out of 28 - 35.71% success rate

[ccfc bondi]

Read into it what you will, but Roosters players are certainly contributing more than their fair share to player wellbeing and education initiatives, judging by the spread of fines from the judiciary up until Round 13 this year...

Parra - $19,150
Roosters - $17,800
Cowboys - $15,650
Dragons - $10,800
Manly - $10,050
Bulldogs - $10,000
Warriors - $9,250
Raiders - $8,250
Penrith - $7,600
Dolphins - $7,450
Storm - $6,350
Knights - $6,300
Sharks - $4,800
Souths - $4,750
Titans - $4,300
Brisbane - $4,250
Tigers - $3,000

[Kelby]

Read into it what you will, but Roosters players are certainly contributing more than their fair share to player wellbeing and education initiatives, judging by the spread of fines from the judiciary up until Round 13 this year...

Parra - $19,150
Roosters - $17,800
Cowboys - $15,650
Dragons - $10,800
Manly - $10,050
Bulldogs - $10,000
Warriors - $9,250
Raiders - $8,250
Penrith - $7,600
Dolphins - $7,450
Storm - $6,350
Knights - $6,300
Sharks - $4,800
Souths - $4,750
Titans - $4,300
Brisbane - $4,250
Tigers - $3,000

Aaaahhh...................... thats the Roosters way!

[Kelby]

There is no doubt that home crowds at least, can have an impact on refs. At games there's been many occasions where I can feel a penalty coming, quite often just to shut the crowd up, and to shut the away crowd too, if they're noisy or South Sydney enough! Refs have known over the years that Roosters crowds are relatively quiet, which is one reason they don't seem to give a toss. There's a lunatic Souths commenter on The Roar who is convinced there's a 'Triumvirate' conspiracy from the NRL that wants the Storm, Penrith and Roosters to win, even though the Roosters are year-by-year up there with the most heavily penalised teams in the comp. While Souths, who always seem to me to get away with a lot, are never given a fair go (which he wrote a few days after Latrell whacked a guy in the head when he got up to play the ball and didn't even get a warning).

So, do we need to bring in drum band, a noisy MC, naked cheerleaders, fireworks, low flying aircraft and fireworks every game?
That will get the atmosphere pumped!

[ccfc bondi]

So, do we need to bring in drum band, a noisy MC, naked cheerleaders, fireworks, low flying aircraft and fireworks every game?
That will get the atmosphere pumped!

I remember the preliminary final against Newcastle in 2000, where some Fittler magic got us back from nowhere to win the game. There was a crowd noise competition of sorts before the game, and the Knights fans made twice as much noise as the Roosters fans, of which they seemed very proud. They were pretty quiet towards the end, though.