Federal Election

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=Andrew Walker: After a slow start this thread is really warming up. It is as good as watching those who hand the pamphlets out debate and discuss policies t amongst themselves. They were also in full swing today at all the polling booths that we attended today.

With my vote finally cast I find myself feeling very pleased with the way I voted and that two others also did the same as I. Had abuse from a Liberal pamphleteer at one booth for telling him he was being voted last. More abuse from a Greens Member for telling them the same elsewhere. It was also a thrill to get the trifecta of abuse at the third polling booth from a Labor pamphleteer when I told them they would be last.

What? We're supposed to guess for whom you cast your paltry vote? You can be sure that some other ignoramus has cancelled you out anyway. Serial pest by the looks, annoying people who have volunteered their time to make "Democracy" work. Leave the poor deluded buggers alone FFS.

[eddie]

Non compulsory voting leads does lead to the elimination of the disengaged, the cynical, and the lazy - all well and good but the end result is vulnerability to well organised players like religions with a result like we see in the US where fundamentalist loons foister their "morality" on the rest of us. Things are bad enough as they are.

That's a very good post.
No insults or trying to paint a false picture of senile pensioners living in flats in Canberra.
I can actually see your point .

The US constitution is supposed to separate church and state.................but time and time again we see otherwise.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

The bookies think she's over.

Labor $1.33
Coalition $3.55

Be interesting watching the early flux, the last 2 American elections have been crackers with the markets changing wildly quickly.

[eddie]

The bookies think she's over.

Labor $1.33
Coalition $3.55

Be interesting watching the early flux, the last 2 American elections have been crackers with the markets changing wildly quickly.

Gamble responsibly

[mightyrooster]

[QUOTE=ism22;n933525]

IMO it's not just swinging voters... it comes down to swinging voters in marginal seats.

NFI who they are or what floats their boat. Interestingly though, all my friends who are close to the Liberal party seem to have pretty much conceded defeat and started making excuses on FB.

Haven't seen Rob C shilling the Pen this time either. He got all fired up before the NSW election (despite being in QLD?) plus the federal election (kept bumping pro-Liberal threads and trying to dominate discussion with pro-Lib stuff). I think his absence is telling...

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Side question... why is this forum owned by a QLD political hack and a Dolphins PR dude? (Are either Easts fans?)

Yes good point. Living in Canberra we’re in very solid Labor seats. Except for Zed in the Senate so we rarely have an impact. I’m not sure who you’re referring to with Rob C?

[Andrew Walker]

[QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n933533]

What? We're supposed to guess for whom you cast your paltry vote? [/B]You can be sure that some other ignoramus has cancelled you out anyway. Serial pest by the looks, annoying people who have volunteered their time to make "Democracy" work. Leave the poor deluded buggers alone FFS.

Not at all PC. It is my vote and I like yourself vote how I see fit. I will though keep that personal unlike yourself who has chosen to tell us all how your paltry vote was cast. No doubt voting the greens in the area you are in will see that vote end up with the Independant candidate.

You know those pamphleteers are somewhat like you in that they get upset and start to abuse others who do not think, or do, like they would do. I suggest you allow the democratic process to take place without trying to belittle all of those here who have used it in a manner that you do not approve of.

[ism22]

Non compulsory voting leads does lead to the elimination of the disengaged, the cynical, and the lazy - all well and good but the end result is vulnerability to well organised players like religions with a result like we see in the US where fundamentalist loons foister their "morality" on the rest of us. Things are bad enough as they are.

Yeah I think making it compulsory (for people living in Australia) to at least rock up, draw a dick on the paper and put it into the box helps ensure that the result reflects the will of the people (rather than being a measure of who can be convinced to bother expressing their opinion).

Also... has anybody REALLY been fined $20 (yes the fine is $20) for not voting? I know a couple who simply never registered and the authorities have never chased them for $20. That said I think if you're REALLY opposed to showing up in order to drop some paper into a box, $20 isn't that much to pay.

IMO all systems are imperfect but ours is pretty darn good.

[ism22]

The bookies think she's over.

Labor $1.33
Coalition $3.55

Be interesting watching the early flux, the last 2 American elections have been crackers with the markets changing wildly quickly.

Coalition's odds are almost the same as our odds to beat the Riff.

Question (no need to reveal political preferences). What would people prefer, Easts winning or 'the other party' (i.e. one you don't want) winning.

[Big Dog]

[QUOTE=mightyrooster;n933512]

Yep the rusted on Lib and ALP voters will vote as always. Same too the Greens, which are popular with a lot of the younger generation which is the vibe I get having two adult teens in the house. The swinging or undecided voter will determine who will win. I really don't think ScoMo is that well liked, but is the alternative any better to the swinging voter? In 2007, Howard was on the nose after 11 years and the voters quickly went to Rudd as he appeared to be different - he was a good orator / debater and could convince the electorate that it was worth making the change. And Murdoch and the news cycle was unable to do anything about it no matter what Paddo may say.

You do realise Murdoch was singing Rudd's praises?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-04-...-as-pm/2528658

[Andrew Walker]

Coalition's odds are almost the same as our odds to beat the Riff.

Question (no need to reveal political preferences). What would people prefer, Easts winning or 'the other party' (i.e. one you don't want) winning.

If you were trying to propose a conundrum or some sort of moral dilemma I think you need to ask that question the other way around

[mightyrooster]

[QUOTE=Jacks Fur Coat;n933520]

Oh for a Bob Hawke, John Howard or even Paul Keating. All strong principled leaders, regardless of whether you agreed with their policies.

None around of that calibre sadly.

So true. They’re all so boring now! Maybe I’m just getting too old!

[mightyrooster]

[QUOTE=Big Dog;n933547]

You do realise Murdoch was singing Rudd's praises?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-04-...-as-pm/2528658

Shoosh…I don’t need another Paddo essay.

[mightyrooster]

I’m not sure what’s happening to my quote function today but it’s doing crazy things.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Polls closed now, markets tightened.
Labor $1.48
Coalition $3.05
(Betfair).

[ism22]

Rob C's still quiet. Running the old 'I don't care about this election' coz he thinks he's gonna lose

Turn up and support your team mate!