Lawsie gone.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Commiserations to BB and Mrs. BB on the passing of John Laws. Another staggering misfortune for each to bear coming as it does in the wake of Alan Jones' belated public disgracing. There will, no doubt, be sadness in the BB household this week and The Tele will will not assuage that grief by calling for a State funeral. Good luck with that by the way. Their banner today mourns the passing of a "giant".

To others, old golden Tonsils was an overpaid bloviating bore whose main job, like most in the msm, was to make the dead hand of Conservatism more palatable to the unthinking hoi poloi. Lawsie's appeal, apart from the gravtias that the voice gave to all kinds of banality, was to glorify conspicuous consumption and, depressingly, he was able for many years, to sell vicarious pleasure and joy to an audience in thrall to materialism. A typical Oz audience, really, as we don't like to think much cos we don't know much and "wouldn't it be lovely" anyway.

Fools tuned in in their thousands every morning to hear about the new Bentley and shared the frustration of the garage, already filled with iconic marques, being too small for the new toy. They thrilled at the lavish dinners at Catalinas or D'arcy's with the princess. Peter Warren up at Warwick Farm became familiar as a good mate as did all of the others who advertised. The "show"was actually, a never ending promotion of products which all figured in "living the dream" but the devoted never twigged not even when "cash for comment" exposed it for what it was, an absolute sham. Lawsie and the Cowbell made a joke out of misleading the punters and the dopes bought it, were even dirty on his behalf.

The cleverness was that his whole presence and the voice shouted Tory - success, greed, materialism, individuality.. As usual, the mumpties listening had Buckley's of actually sharing any of it but they love/d the fantasy and presumably voted accordingly. He recruited legions of listeners with the arse out of their britches to the causes and interests of the rich. Good riddance but there'll be others

[mightyrooster]

I was never a fan of John Laws and never had any interest in listening to him but I’m not going to cheer his death. There are far worse creatures out there who have committed murders and other vile deeds that I’ll reserve that for. RIP to John Laws and condolences to his family.

[Red.]

Agreed MR. Extremely poor form Paddo. No one said you have to like the guy but it might have been wiser to keep your thoughts to yourself.

And just a question, why do you follow a football team whose Chairman and Board are all part of the elite class that you despise?

[Paddo Colt 61]

My fondness for the game is the answer to your question Red. There are things I find unsettling and disappointing about the admin - gambling sponsorship for one.

I neither like nor dislike "the guy", it is/was his role in proselytising for greed that I object/objected to as well as the political role that he, Jonesy, Ray and the rest of our msm play in our society. They normalise the Right.

The Red Star fooled me. You're on a slippery slope when you start admonishing free and reasonable speech. That could be seen as a gesture intended to silence an alternative view. The "guy" was ridiculed and excoriated enough during his glittering lifetime and he also conspired to mislead consumers for private profit, more money on top of his ridiculous salary. What is it Red, don't mention serious bad behaviour?

[Jacks Fur Coat]

We lost two very influential Australians in recent days. The other was Graham Richardson who was one of the most loyal and effective Labor people in its history. The ultimate kingmaker. Then went on to be a very astute election night commentator. He knew the system better than most. You could see his decline in recent years however, the quick wit and sharp mind was losing its punch. Even he, however couldn't explain or support some of the calls of this terms government. But he remained a staunch Labor man, and a good friend of Albo's.
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[Red.]

I didn't admonish you for free and reasonable speech. I merely stated that your post is in poor taste. How you interpret my words as an attempt to silence an alternative view is ludicrous.

PS: Just out of interest how many posts did you start pointing out the man's flaws when he was alive?

[Paddo Colt 61]

I didn't admonish you for free and reasonable speech. I merely stated that your post is in poor taste. How you interpret my words as an attempt to silence an alternative view is ludicrous.

PS: Just out of interest how many posts did you start pointing out the man's flaws when he was alive?

Am sure that I mentioned him frequently in the past along with Ray, Jonesy et al. Admittedly, I can be prone to calling kettles black.

Richo is another case in point. From the right of the NSW ALP, the only thing that distinguished him from the Tories was a designer blue collar. Recruited by Murdoch is all ya need to know.

He was born into a Catholic Labor family up to its neck in thwarting the Left in Union affairs at any and every opportunity. He was best mates with toffs like Rene Rivkin and was linked to Tammany Hall Right wing violent tactics when the Left became prominent in the new gentrified electorates close to the city. He was linked to the bashing of Peter Baldwin in one such episode. He was also linked to prostitution enterprises and corruption of other sorts.

I don't lament Richo either. He was of a catholic right wing bent that gives the ALP a bad name.

[Red.]

Paddo, I don't disagree with what you are saying I'm just disagreeing with you talking ill of the dead.

[ism22]

Speaking of people with political clout, I briefly 'met' Bill Shorten on the weekend. Was at my favourite cafe on the weekend ordering up a creme broulee, blue powerade and flat white after my Sunday morning 30km run.

They asked if I was eating in so I looked around to see if there was a chair. Bill was sitting back in the sun daydreaming after a flat white. He stood up and said 'this table's free now mate'. I said 'oh cheers thanks for that'. Did a double take and was like 'aaaw that was Bill Shorten, ay!'

[Paddo Colt 61]

Was ill not spoken of Ghaddafi who was on the point of creating a pan African trade network to the benefit of all? The US/Israel no likee, bad man that one. A lot of ill was also spoken about Joseph Stalin, most of it BS as current revisionist historians are discovering. There was some ill said and certainly not much that was complimentary on Whitlam's passing.

Why should people fall into line and not criticise a lightweight media personality whose lame contribution is otherwise being lauded and trumpeted by those he served?

[mightyrooster]

Was ill not spoken of Ghaddafi who was on the point of creating a pan African trade network to the benefit of all? The US/Israel no likee, bad man that one. A lot of ill was also spoken about Joseph Stalin, most of it BS as current revisionist historians are discovering. There was some ill said and certainly not much that was complimentary on Whitlam's passing.

Why should people fall into line and not criticise a lightweight media personality whose lame contribution is otherwise being lauded and trumpeted by those he served?

50th anniversary tomorrow of the Gough sacking. It’s hard to believe it’s been that long. I was only in primary school at the time and didn’t really understand the significance then but I’ll never forget all the news and talk around it on the day.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Speaking of people with political clout, I briefly 'met' Bill Shorten on the weekend. Was at my favourite cafe on the weekend ordering up a creme broulee, blue powerade and flat white after my Sunday morning 30km run.

They asked if I was eating in so I looked around to see if there was a chair. Bill was sitting back in the sun daydreaming after a flat white. He stood up and said 'this table's free now mate'. I said 'oh cheers thanks for that'. Did a double take and was like 'aaaw that was Bill Shorten, ay!'

You had a good experience Issy. I bumped into Keating up in Paddo once. Such was/is my admiration (even for a Right Winger) I almost threw myself at his feet on sighting. Feeling that a proper salutation was appropriate in the circumstances,"Good onya Paul was all I could manage in that revered presence and he said without expression "G'day mate".

Had I my wits about me I might have compelled him to listen to my thoughts on Howard, Afghanistan, Bush and all manner of interesting things, certainly our common view on China would have got a run. Could have told him that there were even rich blokes like you, Iz who'd seen the light...well...partially anyway.

[redwhiteblue]

Paddo, I don't disagree with what you are saying I'm just disagreeing with you talking ill of the dead.

Not being rude here Red, but what about speaking ill of those who take a break from here for whatever reason? The thread about Jack being absent seems to be a litany of insults, snide remarks and poor taste..by the same people complaining in this thread..hypocrisy at it's finest once again..no one should ever judge anyone without stepping inside their shoes.

My point is there are worse comments being left visible on here about our own forum members and charity begins at home..within this online community.

[mightyrooster]

Well surely this can’t be another slur at me considering I was one of Jack’s biggest supporters in that thread. Who else has complained in this thread apart from Red and myself?

[Paddo Colt 61]

It's possible that you, along with hordes of other females, had a thing for John and that voice Many would have speculated on taking the Princess' place no doubt and I'm sure that not a few lunched at Catalina (on the Murray) and later auditioned. It might well be that this different obituary may have troubled you somewhat as a fan and i understand that but don't bother sticking up for Jack, he's a disher outer as well. I'm sure that he took all of the members' concern at the time in the spirit intended and saw no "abuse" in it at all.

What you need to know is that just about any thread reference to a member makes their day. To be the butt of ongoing comment is sheer bliss. The King thrived on it It's Izzy's life blood. Never being mentioned js social death.