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  • #46
    Originally posted by milanja View Post

    You sure it was Bennett? Weren’t they all stuck in the rugby league bubble in qld for the last few months?
    It must of been 3 months ago then but it was definitely him. On a later funeral we mentioned it to the grave diggers who said they had seen him plenty of times with his missus walking through the cemetery. He was living at Little Bay.
    Originally posted by OMR;n823956
    You guys will soon be shot down by mickie lane for saying negative stuff about his much admired bunnies. So be gentle with your hatred for souffs as you might hurt his feelings too

    Originally posted by The Sack;n823995

    Watch out, you will get bombarded with gay and animal porn now. One sick individual.

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    • #47
      I still cant see the porpoise of adding The Dolphins to the comp

      Easts can help the new team by donating Ikuvalu to their roster

      Bennett is often called a Supercoach by the jurnos..why?...he has taken Brisbane and Souths to the GF over a 7 year period and lost both games ...hardly super

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Steakface View Post

        On the contrary, it will dilute the talent across the board, not weaken specific clubs as such. More correct to say, it'll be a 'weaker' comp. It'll be incrementally closer to the Super League in overall quality.

        I think thats one of the key reasons the NRL want expansion - the last decade of dominance of the Storm, Roosters, Manly is bad for business.

        They want a much more even comp.

        The reality is, the comp will become more even. You'll see a much stronger overall top 8, rather than the last few years where there is a clearly dominate top 3 or 4 clubs.
        If they want a much more even competition then bring in a player draft. The reason you see the Roosters & Storm dominate the last decade is they have strong progressive management. We are constantly reminded how we have no juniors....and is there such a thing as a Storm junior? Yet these 2 clubs excel.

        I just think when you look at the bottom 6 sides this year theres a host of players who arent of first grade standard. I cant see by adding another 30 players in the mix how it will give you a more even competition- it certainly won't give you an overall stronger product. For those of us old enough to remember the 20 team comp of 1995 and 1996 seasons, it was littered with dozens of games that were not much higher in quality than park footy.

        If i was the NRL i would have been plowing tens of millions into junior comps, country league & even league pathways in Samoa, Fiji, PNG and Tonga

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

          If they want a much more even competition then bring in a player draft. The reason you see the Roosters & Storm dominate the last decade is they have strong progressive management. We are constantly reminded how we have no juniors....and is there such a thing as a Storm junior? Yet these 2 clubs excel.

          I just think when you look at the bottom 6 sides this year theres a host of players who arent of first grade standard. I cant see by adding another 30 players in the mix how it will give you a more even competition- it certainly won't give you an overall stronger product. For those of us old enough to remember the 20 team comp of 1995 and 1996 seasons, it was littered with dozens of games that were not much higher in quality than park footy.

          If i was the NRL i would have been plowing tens of millions into junior comps, country league & even league pathways in Samoa, Fiji, PNG and Tonga
          There should be a points cap instead of a salary cap.
          A salary cap which is easy to cheat and the average punter in the street always questions why can teams like Easts fit the team under the cap, they must be cheating.
          Players are worth points with the value depending on a never player NRL before, average NRL player, SOO player or test player.
          Clubs can't have player declining to play rep footy to reduce there value, you get picked and decline to play you are still valued as a rep player.

          Develop a player then you get a discount for the contract.

          Teddy being a rep player and we want to offer $500,000 or $2,000,000 a season that's our business but his points value stays the same.
          We still would have to manage and stay under the points cap but its more transparent.
          Dollar value is easy to cheat as we all know, pretty sure all clubs fudge the figures including ours. Sign a player on $500,000 but employee his mum on $200,000 to serve beers at the club.

          Clubs like Easts, Manly, Eels and the Storm would probably be disadvantaged as we develop and don't pay overs like the Tigers or Dogs but it would share the talent around.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

            If they want a much more even competition then bring in a player draft. The reason you see the Roosters & Storm dominate the last decade is they have strong progressive management. We are constantly reminded how we have no juniors....and is there such a thing as a Storm junior? Yet these 2 clubs excel.

            I just think when you look at the bottom 6 sides this year theres a host of players who arent of first grade standard. I cant see by adding another 30 players in the mix how it will give you a more even competition- it certainly won't give you an overall stronger product. For those of us old enough to remember the 20 team comp of 1995 and 1996 seasons, it was littered with dozens of games that were not much higher in quality than park footy.

            If i was the NRL i would have been plowing tens of millions into junior comps, country league & even league pathways in Samoa, Fiji, PNG and Tonga
            What do you mean by progressive management?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kentucky_Fried_Rooster View Post

              There should be a points cap instead of a salary cap.
              A salary cap which is easy to cheat and the average punter in the street always questions why can teams like Easts fit the team under the cap, they must be cheating.
              Players are worth points with the value depending on a never player NRL before, average NRL player, SOO player or test player.
              Clubs can't have player declining to play rep footy to reduce there value, you get picked and decline to play you are still valued as a rep player.

              Develop a player then you get a discount for the contract.

              Teddy being a rep player and we want to offer $500,000 or $2,000,000 a season that's our business but his points value stays the same.
              We still would have to manage and stay under the points cap but its more transparent.
              Dollar value is easy to cheat as we all know, pretty sure all clubs fudge the figures including ours. Sign a player on $500,000 but employee his mum on $200,000 to serve beers at the club.

              Clubs like Easts, Manly, Eels and the Storm would probably be disadvantaged as we develop and don't pay overs like the Tigers or Dogs but it would share the talent around.
              There can be a huge disparity in the quality of players who play rep football. Queensland have a much smaller pool to pick from and if they are given the same value on a points system it doesn't hold up, as an example the dogs paid big money for Dylan Napa from us as an origin rep player when in reality he was our 4th prop in rotation.
              I love Uncle Nick but I can't agree with him on this one about expanding to 20 teams, I just think even now that the quality isn't there for even 16 as we saw with the lopsided contests this year.

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              • #52
                I'm all for growing the game but I'm questioning whether adding more teams is necessarily the best thing for the NRL as it stands today.

                Mainly due to two factors. 1. The lack of quality players. You need multiple marquee players in each squad for a team to be competitive, and produce a good product that people want to watch. 2. The lack of funds. The majority of teams barely make a profit. Adding teams means that there are more mouths to feed.

                I'd rather see a couple of teams relocate. In a national sport, Sydney no longer needs 9 teams. Geographical speaking, Dogs and Souffs make the most sense to me.

                While we are at it permanently make the Tigpies and St. Merge play out of Campbelltown and the Gong respectively. This will allow both merged clubs to finally (after 22 years) build an identity, in fan heartlands. Both clubs have struggled to keep both their sets of fans happy. Time to go to where they will have the most success, instead of being multiple things and pleasing no one.

                You are then left with 6 teams in Sydney fighting for the same corporate $ instead of 9.

                Dogs and Souffs can be rebranded based on their new locations. Either Perth or a 2nd NZ team is a must due to their time zones. It adds an extra live game for super Saturday/Sunday. Let's face it. Whether we like it or not keeping fans happy isn't as important as bringing in a larger TV deal, because that's where the money comes from.

                p.s if Souffs don't like it piss them off. They are nothing without the Phone Chucker pouring in his millions a year. And for what? 1 welfare comp in 50 years. They won't be missed
                Last edited by SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva; 10-14-2021, 01:02 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva View Post
                  I'm all for growing the game but I'm questioning whether adding more teams is necessarily the best thing for the NRL as it stands today.

                  Mainly due to two factors. 1. The lack of quality players. You need multiple marquee players in each squad for a team to be competitive, and produce a good product that people want to watch. 2. The lack of funds. The majority of teams barely make a profit. Adding teams means that there are more mouths to feed.

                  I'd rather see a couple of teams relocate. In a national sport, Sydney no longer needs 9 teams. Geographical speaking, Dogs and Souffs make the most sense to me.

                  While we are at it permanently make the Tigpies and St. Merge play out of Campbelltown and the Gong respectively. This will allow both merged clubs to finally (after 22 years) build an identity, in fan heartlands. Both clubs have struggled to keep both their sets of fans happy. Time to go to where they will have the most success, instead of being multiple things and pleasing no one.

                  You are then left with 6 teams in Sydney fighting for the same corporate $ instead of 9.

                  Dogs and Souffs can be rebranded based on their new locations. Either Perth or a 2nd NZ team is a must due to their time zones. It adds an extra live game for super Saturday/Sunday. Let's face it. Whether we like it or not keeping fans happy isn't as important as bringing in a larger TV deal, because that's where the money comes from.

                  p.s if Souffs don't like it piss them off. They are nothing without the Phone Chucker pouring in his millions a year. And for what? 1 welfare comp in 50 years. They won't be missed
                  Yeah that’s your take because you go for the Roosters but imagine if it was the Roosters that were being told to relocate. No one on here can say get rid of Souths or Canterbury because just as many people on other forums would want the Roosters to relocate because the Roosters have no juniors & all that. My main point is if you’re not prepared for your own team to relocate then don’t throw other teams under the bus.
                  Originally posted by OMR;n823956
                  You guys will soon be shot down by mickie lane for saying negative stuff about his much admired bunnies. So be gentle with your hatred for souffs as you might hurt his feelings too

                  Originally posted by The Sack;n823995

                  Watch out, you will get bombarded with gay and animal porn now. One sick individual.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                    Yeah that’s your take because you go for the Roosters but imagine if it was the Roosters that were being told to relocate. No one on here can say get rid of Souths or Canterbury because just as many people on other forums would want the Roosters to relocate because the Roosters have no juniors & all that. My main point is if you’re not prepared for your own team to relocate then don’t throw other teams under the bus.
                    See I said it , get rid of Souths .
                    "You know who you are and who I mean so stay the hell away from me "

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kentucky_Fried_Rooster View Post

                      There should be a points cap instead of a salary cap.
                      A salary cap which is easy to cheat and the average punter in the street always questions why can teams like Easts fit the team under the cap, they must be cheating.
                      Players are worth points with the value depending on a never player NRL before, average NRL player, SOO player or test player.
                      Clubs can't have player declining to play rep footy to reduce there value, you get picked and decline to play you are still valued as a rep player.

                      Develop a player then you get a discount for the contract.

                      Teddy being a rep player and we want to offer $500,000 or $2,000,000 a season that's our business but his points value stays the same.
                      We still would have to manage and stay under the points cap but its more transparent.
                      Dollar value is easy to cheat as we all know, pretty sure all clubs fudge the figures including ours. Sign a player on $500,000 but employee his mum on $200,000 to serve beers at the club.

                      Clubs like Easts, Manly, Eels and the Storm would probably be disadvantaged as we develop and don't pay overs like the Tigers or Dogs but it would share the talent around.
                      Clubs would go broke if they could pay players any amount though under your points system - how would you allocate players points though - points for number of games played plus points for rep footy - player 0 to 50 games 10 points - player 51 to 100 games 20 points etc - should rep footy be countered though - if a player played 1 SOO game does this mean he is valued as a SOO player for the allocation of points or as an non current SOO player with no points allocated for this- do players that play in GF teams attract more points.

                      Points systems are too complicated to administer - my old Junior Club East Campbelltown Eagles won the Group 6 premiership and the prestigious Claytons cup being the only undefeated team in the NSW CRL that season - Group 6 then decides to bring in a points system saying they were too strong and to "even up the comp - most of the players came through the Eagles Juniors though - They withdraw from Group 6 and joined the Sydney Shield comp winning 3 comps with basically the same players.

                      The current salary cap has it's issues but is a more fairer system and easier to administer -

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                      • #56
                        Hope they are a miserable failure like every other Qld team.

                        I hate them already.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva View Post
                          I'm all for growing the game but I'm questioning whether adding more teams is necessarily the best thing for the NRL as it stands today.

                          Mainly due to two factors. 1. The lack of quality players. You need multiple marquee players in each squad for a team to be competitive, and produce a good product that people want to watch. 2. The lack of funds. The majority of teams barely make a profit. Adding teams means that there are more mouths to feed.

                          I'd rather see a couple of teams relocate. In a national sport, Sydney no longer needs 9 teams. Geographical speaking, Dogs and Souffs make the most sense to me.

                          While we are at it permanently make the Tigpies and St. Merge play out of Campbelltown and the Gong respectively. This will allow both merged clubs to finally (after 22 years) build an identity, in fan heartlands. Both clubs have struggled to keep both their sets of fans happy. Time to go to where they will have the most success, instead of being multiple things and pleasing no one.

                          You are then left with 6 teams in Sydney fighting for the same corporate $ instead of 9.

                          Dogs and Souffs can be rebranded based on their new locations. Either Perth or a 2nd NZ team is a must due to their time zones. It adds an extra live game for super Saturday/Sunday. Let's face it. Whether we like it or not keeping fans happy isn't as important as bringing in a larger TV deal, because that's where the money comes from.

                          p.s if Souffs don't like it piss them off. They are nothing without the Phone Chucker pouring in his millions a year. And for what? 1 welfare comp in 50 years. They won't be missed
                          If they were thinking of relocating teams - merging teams would be the better option

                          I actually think the idea of merging Souths- St George-Ilawarra and Sharks is a viable one and play out of a refurbished Kogarah Oval (Bank West type ground)- South Sydney and Southern Sydney are in close proximity plus they could Merge Wests Tigers and Bulldogs (play out of either a refurbished Campbelltown or Liverpool) and Parramatta and Penrith play out of Bankwest and or a refurbished Panther ground.

                          Be 5 Sydney clubs including standalone Chooks and Manly- plus redraw the Junior boundaries

                          Be plenty of left over players to fill the new 3 teams - i.e Souths/Dragons and Sharks select 10 players from their squads for the new club - 60 players then available for the 3 new teams and other teams - Tigers and Dogs . Parra and Penrith pick 15 each from their squads - another 30 players available for the 3 new teams and other teams

                          13 teams then can add another 3 - QLD team/WA and 2nd NZ team for a 16 team comp - able to expand to 17 and 18 as well later on- SA./ NT and Tassie / Pacific Islands/PNG
                          Last edited by King Salvo; 10-14-2021, 07:14 PM.

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                          • #58
                            This will go down well, if there were any 2 clubs that should merge its Easts & Souths they’re over the road from each other & if they did merged they would be unstoppable.
                            Okay I will now go & take my medication.
                            Originally posted by OMR;n823956
                            You guys will soon be shot down by mickie lane for saying negative stuff about his much admired bunnies. So be gentle with your hatred for souffs as you might hurt his feelings too

                            Originally posted by The Sack;n823995

                            Watch out, you will get bombarded with gay and animal porn now. One sick individual.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                              This will go down well, if there were any 2 clubs that should merge its Easts & Souths they’re over the road from each other & if they did merged they would be unstoppable.
                              Okay I will now go & take my medication.
                              Piss off Mickie. Go have another hit.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

                                Piss off Mickie. Go have another hit.
                                Come on mate be honest with me.
                                Originally posted by OMR;n823956
                                You guys will soon be shot down by mickie lane for saying negative stuff about his much admired bunnies. So be gentle with your hatred for souffs as you might hurt his feelings too

                                Originally posted by The Sack;n823995

                                Watch out, you will get bombarded with gay and animal porn now. One sick individual.

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