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  • King Salvo
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    Originally posted by Sharks View Post
    Jumped online to see what you guys all thought about Walker getting so little minutes. Seems a lot are as confused as me.

    Why leave a player of his skill set on the bench for so long. I get you want to look after him being so young etc but that time has passed. You should have rested him more during the season. The time to rest him during a knock out final is long gone.

    Nearly cost you the game and should have brought him on way sooner!

    Good thing you guys won, can only imagine how Roosters fans hearts were feeling after that game. Even I needed a lay down after that!

    Manly is going to be a tough game.
    I think the Chooks errors almost cost them the game though - 2 or 3 of the Titans tries came from these .

    A very poor set completion rate of 64% and 46 missed tackles kept the Titans in the game also- It was fortunate the Titans set completion rate of 67% wasn't much better although they defended better than they usually do with 20 missed tackles only

    Compare Storms 90% set completions and 19 missed tackles vs Manly's 72% set completions and 36 missed tackles and Souths 85% set completions and 21 missed tackles vs Penrith's 75% set completions and 28 missed tackles and you can see that high set completions and low missed tackles are vital commodities in finals footy as it is during the year.

    You don't want to contribute to your own downfall because of poor play and ill discipline.

    Chooks will need to improve on these two areas as a minimum to be competitive vs Manly


    Last edited by King Salvo; 09-14-2021, 07:12 PM.

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  • Lydon
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    Originally posted by Sharks View Post
    Jumped online to see what you guys all thought about Walker getting so little minutes. Seems a lot are as confused as me.

    Why leave a player of his skill set on the bench for so long. I get you want to look after him being so young etc but that time has passed. You should have rested him more during the season. The time to rest him during a knock out final
    Couldn’t agree with you more mate,Sam Walker is one of those players that if your forwards are holding the fort up front you want the ball in his hands as much as possible..

    Their were times against the Titans where we had good ball on their line yet looked clunky and wasted opportunities based on no direction..

    I’m always happy to back Robbo but this has left me scratching my head,just makes no sense!

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  • Sharks
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    Jumped online to see what you guys all thought about Walker getting so little minutes. Seems a lot are as confused as me.

    Why leave a player of his skill set on the bench for so long. I get you want to look after him being so young etc but that time has passed. You should have rested him more during the season. The time to rest him during a knock out final is long gone.

    Nearly cost you the game and should have brought him on way sooner!

    Good thing you guys won, can only imagine how Roosters fans hearts were feeling after that game. Even I needed a lay down after that!

    Manly is going to be a tough game.

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  • Dr. Voodoo Man
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    Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
    I think people forget you have a squad of players for a reason and all in the squad and more could be used during an NRL season for varying lengths of time.

    It is fortunate the club has such players many of whom have come through the Chooks systems or pathways as they call it now to step into roles and contribute this season - other clubs would really struggle filling these roles especially long term.

    To dish Lam/Hutch and even N Butcher who has established himself in the 17 over a number of seasons is rather poor form to say the least.

    As Gomer Pyle USMC would often say "Shame Shame Shame" on these that do that - easy to be a critic when your not having to do it though.

    I agree. The boys that have been used have excelled. Lam has played all over the park for us including in the centres. I'm not sure what people want from him.

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  • King Salvo
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    I think people forget you have a squad of players for a reason and all in the squad and more could be used during an NRL season for varying lengths of time.

    It is fortunate the club has such players many of whom have come through the Chooks systems or pathways as they call it now to step into roles and contribute this season - other clubs would really struggle filling these roles especially long term.

    To dish Lam/Hutch and even N Butcher who has established himself in the 17 over a number of seasons is rather poor form to say the least.

    As Gomer Pyle USMC would often say "Shame Shame Shame" on these that do that - easy to be a critic when your not having to do it though.

    Last edited by King Salvo; 09-13-2021, 12:56 PM.

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  • King Salvo
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    Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

    You always try and spin the worst on Lam regardless of what he does. You even blamed him for Kearys acl for crissakes!

    He shredded them twice and could have had 2 tries save for the dubious obstruction rules. He threatened the line a lot more than Hutch. I thought our whole left hand side of Hutch, Gus and Keighran were much more clunky if you're looking for scapegoats.

    Iku needs to catch that ball...cmon man..here's a straw, now clutch.
    I remember seeing young Lam at Adrian's last game and he was a Rooster then as he is now

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  • ism22
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    Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post

    Why make that assumption? He won’t be kicking goals while the centre is there.
    Bingo. Also, setting up 1 extra try defeats that argument.

    On Saturday the fact is that our tactic worked and the Titans are now toast. We will play Many on Friday for a spot in the preliminary final.

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  • Cockadoodledoo
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    Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post

    He's kicked before when Keighran was there. Nevertheless, it turned out to be a very important kick and somewhat ignored by everyone.
    There’s more chance of Robbo coming out of the coaching box and taking the shot than Walker, now that Keighran has established himself as the first choice kicker.

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  • Carlos Parra
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    Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post

    Why make that assumption? He won’t be kicking goals while the centre is there.
    He's kicked before when Keighran was there. Nevertheless, it turned out to be a very important kick and somewhat ignored by everyone.

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  • Johnny Tobin
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    Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
    If Walker had more game time, it's a reasonable assumption he'd have taken the attempt at converting Tupou's try in the corner. He'd have missed it of course, and we'd all be spewing about losing the game by 1 or 2 points instead of complaining about how little time he spent on the field.

    Furthermore, has Verrils learned nothing? Why did he go to the ground on the last play instead of kicking the ball into touch or running it back 100 metres?
    Why make that assumption? He won’t be kicking goals while the centre is there.

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  • Carlos Parra
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    If Walker had more game time, it's a reasonable assumption he'd have taken the attempt at converting Tupou's try in the corner. He'd have missed it of course, and we'd all be spewing about losing the game by 1 or 2 points instead of complaining about how little time he spent on the field.

    Furthermore, has Verrils learned nothing? Why did he go to the ground on the last play instead of kicking the ball into touch or running it back 100 metres?
    Last edited by Carlos Parra; 09-12-2021, 04:20 PM.

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  • Tommy Smith
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    Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

    I don't think anyone who knows the game thinks he's ineffectual though. That's just fantalk by spuds.

    Why would Robbo have started and played him for 75 odd mins if he was as bad as you say.
    He's there purely because he's bigger and stronger than Walker who is a cataclysmic target in defence.

    I think zero try assists for Lam in the last dozen games someone noted is the definition of an ineffectual halfback.

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  • Jacks Fur Coat
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    Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
    I think if he's this ineffectual at the Roosters he'll go about as well at a shit club as Flanno did at the Dogs.
    I don't think anyone who knows the game thinks he's ineffectual though. That's just fantalk by spuds.

    Why would Robbo have started and played him for 75 odd mins if he was as bad as you say.

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  • Thirteen
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    Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post

    He would have had a very important try assist early if Sitili caught the ball. I think Lam will be somewhere else next season (they can’t carry him and Hutch as back ups) but I don’t think he is so terrible.
    I don’t think he’d be in demand in the NRL. I don’t think he’s terrible either but I don’t see any upside with him.

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  • Thirteen
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    It was Walker’s defense that led to that Titans break at the end. He covered well but should not have missed the tackle in the first place. Hit the gym young fella.

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