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  • Rooster_6
    started a topic Does Sitili deserve a shot over Gus?

    Does Sitili deserve a shot over Gus?

    Thoughts?

  • Andrew Walker
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    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

    Please, my knowledge on the game wouldn't even register in comparison to Trent Robinson. The bloke is an absolute genius, if you want to know my true affection towards him read my posts circa late 2006 to early 2008 when plenty were suggesting he should be replaced.

    I've been an unapologetic, staunch supporter of his since the day he arrived and will be forever. This has nothing to do with my opinion of Trent Robinson.

    I just think it's an interesting topic that has a few layers to it and I was curious to see what others thought so I could read though different opinions and ideas to evolve my own and to be honest I've really enjoyed everything that's been contributed.

    Truth be told I didn't really have a standpoint on it when I asked the question but I agree with the majority, I think the coaching staff would have a clear plan for him in regards to expanding his role in the team once he's settled and that will come with time so he deserves that opportunity. It also wouldn't be any wiser just to put a rookie in the position either. Like I said my paranoia stems largely from the size of his contract, if he's not playing to his value could his have been put to better use elsewhere in the squad.

    Surely this is what forums are for? To hear different opinions and have enough self awareness to develop or change your own.
    Fir enough. My viewpoint on this is Angus has that little bit more experience than Sitili, whom I believe is best suited to the the team at this point in time coming on as an impact player. Definite starter at some point down the line though.and I think he will get a taste of being a starting player when Origin comes around.
    Last edited by Andrew Walker; 05-20-2019, 09:46 AM.

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  • zac
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    I'm an Angus fan and he deserves seniority over Sitili atm. But I'm also a Sitili fan and think our ability to hold onto him is a real coup. A lot can happen over the next 2 and half years and they both come off contract at the same time, so it will be interesting to see what happens then. Not saying they're necessarily in competition with each other, but it is now clear that signing Gus hasn't meant we lost Sitili.

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  • Thirteen
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    Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

    I'm sure it was you Thirteen who informed me that, sadly, Rooster6 is not a woman.
    What!? Are you telling me that the little picture to the left of Rooster6 name is not a photo of Rooster6? And Iíve been so nice to him/her all these years!
    Last edited by Thirteen; 05-16-2019, 09:14 PM.

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  • Jacks Fur Coat
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    Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

    I just come on here to meet women!
    I'm sure it was you Thirteen who informed me that, sadly, Rooster6 is not a woman.

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  • Thirteen
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    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

    Please, my knowledge on the game wouldn't even register in comparison to Trent Robinson. The bloke is an absolute genius, if you want to know my true affection towards him read my posts circa late 2006 to early 2008 when plenty were suggesting he should be replaced.

    I've been an unapologetic, staunch supporter of his since the day he arrived and will be forever. This has nothing to do with my opinion of Trent Robinson.

    I just think it's an interesting topic that has a few layers to it and I was curious to see what others thought so I could read though different opinions and ideas to evolve my own and to be honest I've really enjoyed everything that's been contributed.

    Truth be told I didn't really have a standpoint on it when I asked the question but I agree with the majority, I think the coaching staff would have a clear plan for him in regards to expanding his role in the team once he's settled and that will come with time so he deserves that opportunity. It also wouldn't be any wiser just to put a rookie in the position either. Like I said my paranoia stems largely from the size of his contract, if he's not playing to his value could his have been put to better use elsewhere in the squad.

    Surely this is what forums are for? To hear different opinions and have enough self awareness to develop or change your own.
    I just come on here to meet women!

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  • Louis N
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    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

    Truth be told I didn't really have a standpoint on it when I asked the question but I agree with the majority, I think the coaching staff would have a clear plan for him in regards to expanding his role in the team once he's settled and that will come with time so he deserves that opportunity. It also wouldn't be any wiser just to put a rookie in the position either. Like I said my paranoia stems largely from the size of his contract, if he's not playing to his value could his have been put to better use elsewhere in the squad.

    Surely this is what forums are for? To hear different opinions and have enough self awareness to develop or change your own.
    I get it totally. Perhaps the question could have been reworded toward the value bit. But when I was watching the Canberra game first time around I asked the same question and then shook my head for asking it. But I've watched that game again since and on that game you'd be crazy to go past Sitili. Take into account his performance against the Storm and the run that led to Latrell's 'impossible' field goal, plus a fair effort against St George and Sitili is playing above his weight. He must be retained.

    Also Curran is playing NSW residents and starting to find his feet etc. It's a fair question whether Chrichton is worth his wage in comparison. I do think he's a great player and has enormous skills that we're yet to see. He has shown he can also play the tough game. And his attitude is something you can't replace. Totally dedicated athlete. Plus now a seasoned first grade player who can shine at any level. He may have been purchased knowing that Cordner is a bit more injury prone and the way Boyd plays, may have a shorter career. Then you need another leader. And that's where Angus fits the bill.

    I do think Angus is worth big dollars. I just think we're in a rare position with a heap of great young forwards. I wouldn't like to be the one selecting who to keep and who to let go. But I do belive we have let go the right ones, with Napa a send off risk and Evans never fulfilling potential etc. So trust in Trent...he should know.

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  • Rooster_6
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    Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
    Here we go R6 at it again. Thinking he knows better than Trent Robinson.
    Please, my knowledge on the game wouldn't even register in comparison to Trent Robinson. The bloke is an absolute genius, if you want to know my true affection towards him read my posts circa late 2006 to early 2008 when plenty were suggesting he should be replaced.

    I've been an unapologetic, staunch supporter of his since the day he arrived and will be forever. This has nothing to do with my opinion of Trent Robinson.

    I just think it's an interesting topic that has a few layers to it and I was curious to see what others thought so I could read though different opinions and ideas to evolve my own and to be honest I've really enjoyed everything that's been contributed.

    Truth be told I didn't really have a standpoint on it when I asked the question but I agree with the majority, I think the coaching staff would have a clear plan for him in regards to expanding his role in the team once he's settled and that will come with time so he deserves that opportunity. It also wouldn't be any wiser just to put a rookie in the position either. Like I said my paranoia stems largely from the size of his contract, if he's not playing to his value could his have been put to better use elsewhere in the squad.

    Surely this is what forums are for? To hear different opinions and have enough self awareness to develop or change your own.

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  • Chookies74
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    "I do not know this for a fact but reliable fans who know Kane evans family said one of the reasons he did not enjoy final years at roosters was his offload ticket revoked by Robbo.
    Im sure this happens in clubs but have no idea why Kaneís was revoked"
    His mum told me that at and Anzac day game the year (or 2) before he went to Parra. I wanted to reply that i thought his selection of when to do it and when not to, needed some improvement, but, as she was a very polite and respectful woman, I though it way to rude for a nufty, who has never played at that level, to make any comment, so I just smiled, agreed and sipped my beer.

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  • Rooster_6
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    Originally posted by Johnny Tobin View Post

    Ricky did that to Shillo.

    They are paranoid about completion rates.
    Don't know that Robbo is all that paranoid about completion rates.

    I think Robbo just values quick play the balls, structure in yardage/transition and then when you're in good ball he's happy for players to be a little more creative.

    Really though when you look at it the value of an offload in yardage is the ability to suck in defenders, offload the ball to a play which can create a one on one or a staggered defensive line. The ball playing Robbo has his middles do between themselves (Liu, JWH, Hargreaves, Radley) is just as effective and lower risk.

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  • Rooster_6
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    Originally posted by Kingbilly View Post

    Valid points. But Robbo and the Roosters keep stuff very close to their chest. I would not be surprised he is used more as an attacking weapon later in the year. Nothing stay the same and it could be just a waiting game
    If you take Robbo's philosophy with teams and apply it to players he goes on and on about "laying the foundations first".

    I guess you could easily compare Circthon's season with Tedesco, Tedesco started slowly last season and when he was openly criticised, Robbo defended him and spoke about developing his organisation of the defensive line.

    The concern for me is I had seen it in Teddy in countless previous seasons and I saw glimpses of it from him at the beginning of last year, I just haven't seen a whole lot for Gus yet. He had a decent Anzac day game and I loved his run back across field last Sunday but really really brief moments. I also thought his second season in First Grade was underwhelming.

    Like Cockadoodledoo I think my paranoia of his performances stems from how much I know he's taking up of the cap and the potential that has to cost us in terms of players.

    Knowing Aubbo, Curran, Sitili & Tetavno are all off contract this year with Latrell, Butcher, Manu, SST, JWH & Friend off contract next. I just really hope we've spent that 700k or so wisely.

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  • Johnny Tobin
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    Originally posted by ism22 View Post

    Yeah I'd love just 30 minutes with Robbo over a coffee/beer to learn some of his privately held perspectives. We're lucky to have one of the best minds in the game...
    The fan forum he used to do was great. Hasn't done it for a few years.

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  • Johnny Tobin
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    Originally posted by The Axe View Post

    I do not know this for a fact but reliable fans who know Kane evans family said one of the reasons he did not enjoy final years at roosters was his offload ticket revoked by Robbo.
    Im sure this happens in clubs but have no idea why Kaneís was revoked
    Ricky did that to Shillo.

    They are paranoid about completion rates.

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  • ism22
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    Originally posted by mattyh View Post

    great post, if that is correct that puts so much in perspective, and shows what robbo sees as oppossed to what we the uneducated fan see. when i say uneducated im a giy who played 2 or 3 seasons growing up in nz, and has probably watched 2000 nrl games , but my knowledge is severely lacking compared to a t.robbo.
    Yeah I'd love just 30 minutes with Robbo over a coffee/beer to learn some of his privately held perspectives. We're lucky to have one of the best minds in the game...

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  • top_joe
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    Originally posted by Easts75 View Post

    I'm guessing he didn't enjoy his final years as he was nowhere near first grade standard and couldn't make the team
    And can barely make the 17 for Parra...

    Something that sticks in my mind is when Robbo said "You have to earn the right to play footy".

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