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  • Louis N
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    Originally posted by bondi paul View Post
    Indeed it’s a great read that’s all inclusive of the facts however the story has been written before by another whereas Gould has written a updated and more statistical story based on the original. Journalistic plagiarism by Gus however this read for the masses will only further the socio demographic hang up and dislike.
    I think you've nailed it Bondi Paul. I'd say Gus has been reading this forum for his research.

    It's often been stated how many of the 2016 U-20's premiers have thrived under further development with our senior side.

    Radley, Butcher, Faamausili, Touponiua four forwards who've made first grade is a great achievement for the boys and the coaching staff. Joey Manu has gone onto to senior international honours. Others like Movorovski have played first grade at the Roosters and now the Tigers. And Bernard Lewis is finding form after having last season stolen from him by injury. He scored two tries on the weekend which will help his confidence.

    And not forgetting Latrell who was thrust into first grade due in 2016 due to Fergo asking not to play fullback. Otherwise Latrell would have been part of the 2016 premiers. One of the great qualities of that side was their ability to run down big points deficits with magical comebacks. It takes a lot of spirit to do that. And it now shows with the young players mixing it in the NRL.

    So yes Gus..good article. But it's already been written on this forum.

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  • Horry
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    I think someone else wrote it and Gould just did cut and paste!

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  • Salvatori Grubber
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    Originally posted by Johnny73 View Post

    Yes. Matt Sing was a great winger. And that Brad Fittler was alright on his day too.
    That’s what I was thinking when I read the line also.

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  • The Brain
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    Originally posted by Johnny73 View Post

    Yes. Matt Sing was a great winger. And that Brad Fittler was alright on his day too.
    Lol...only if you knew

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  • ism22
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    > Look through the team lists and you will find a myriad of players who were at the Roosters prior to making their NRL debut, but are now playing elsewhere. Contrary to conventional wisdom, the Roosters have had to let many of these players go, but the players will still speak highly of their early years with the Roosters. They are all in the senior squads at their current clubs: Kenny-Dowall, Guerra, Tautau Moga, Connor Watson, Pearce (Knights); Joseph Leilua, Jack Murchie, Iosia Soliola (Raiders); Ryley Jacks, Treymain Spry (Titans); Jahrome Hughes, Sandor Earl (Storm); Brad Takairangi, Kane Evans (Parramatta); Tuivasa-Sheck, Jackson Frei, Leivaha Pulu, Taane Milne, Blake Ayshford (Warriors); John Asiata, Javid Bowen, Nene Macdonald (Cowboys); Momirovski, Matterson, Esan Marsters, Luke Garner (Tigers); Rhyse Martin, Napa (Bulldogs); Sean O'Sullivan, Joe Ofahengaue (Broncos); James Tamou, Frank Winterstein (Panthers); Ethan Lowe (Souths); Brendan Elliot, Lloyd Perrett (Manly); Kurt Capewell, Braden Hamlin-Uele (Sharks).

    > That's 37 players, plus 19 of the 29-man Roosters squad, and it's possible I have missed a few. It's impressive, to say the least.

    Decent list!!! I didn't know we had guys like Ofahengaue, Ethan Lowe and Javid Bowen. Decent list!!!

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  • mightyrooster
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    Great article from Gus. He’s back in my good books......for now. But I’m still giving his commentary and that of his annoying co-commentator a miss.

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  • Jacks Fur Coat
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    Originally posted by mattyh View Post

    i was referring to graham mackay
    Thought so.

    It was once said that, to beat Graham Mackay, you had to think like Graham Mackay.

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  • Frozen Chook
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    Originally posted by Insider View Post

    Umm that's not Bondi Boy. Bondi Boy is the Roosters wing coach and resident stadia expert who likes to get under the skin of ism, almost as much as the axe does.
    Sorry my mistake

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  • mattyh
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    Originally posted by Johnny73 View Post

    Yes. Matt Sing was a great winger. And that Brad Fittler was alright on his day too.
    i was referring to graham mackay

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  • Insider
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    Originally posted by Frozen Chook View Post

    Bondi Boy this subject has been discussed in detail on this forum. It is pleasing that Phil Gould has expanded on the subject.

    The latest variation
    • Frozen Chook
      Frozen Chook
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      #6
      10-06-2018, 09:44 PM
      If we look at our current first grade squad and grand final team(in bold) the success of the club is based on a long term succession planning process of players developed at the club, signing key players in the middle ground of the games playing stock, some who are at times on the outer at their club and a very small number of well-established players.

      Even if we look at our Coach, Trent Robinson, he came to us as a relatively untested coach by NRL standards.

      Many current sports journalists (the regurgitators) don’t want to do the research required for their jobs and to quote a former Prime Minister they are like a dog returning to its own vomit which has a vintage from the early 70’s.

      The only continuum throughout the nearly fifty years of this tired old rerun of a story is the son of Greek migrants, Nick Politis, who built a very successful business and football club. Nick saw all of the potential models of how success could be achieved including the super mid 70’s team, the transit lounge era and the game’s Super League misadventure.

      Now we have a model based on developing a core of young players supported by strategic signings of key players to compliment the maturing footballers and a number of signings of mid-range players.

      Nick has always struck me as a fiercely independent person and it doesn’t surprise me that he has found himself at times at odds with the NRL establishment and the media sycophants and hanger ons.

      Over the forty odd years I have followed Easts I have never spoken to Nick until this year when I was by myself in the stand at the Penrith trial and Nick passed by down the steps, when he turned and saw an Easts supporter he came back up said hello and shook by hand to check in on how we would go this year.

      We both agreed on one thing that was to eventuate last week.

      What do they say about football and the 1 percenters?

      Developed at Easts SG BALL – under 20’s – etc. or debuted at Easts

      Bernard Lewis
      Billy Smith
      Joseph Manu
      Brendan Frei
      Lachlan Lam
      Latrell Mitchell
      Sean O'Sullivan
      Boyd Cordner
      Brock Gray
      Dylan Napa
      Eloni Vunakece
      Jake Friend
      Joshua Curran
      Lindsay Collins
      Mitchell Aubusson
      Matt Ikuvalu
      Isaac Liu
      Paul Momirovski
      Poasa Faamausili
      Reuben Porter
      Sitili Tupouniua
      Victor Radley

      Players who were not wanted by their clubs or late-early stage of their careers

      Blake Ferguson
      Daniel Tupou
      Reece Robinson
      Frank-Paul Nuuausala
      Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
      Kurt Baptiste
      Nat Butcher
      Mitchell Cornish
      Ryan Matterson
      Siosiua Taukeiaho
      Zane Tetevano

      Major signing of established and successful NRL first graders-rep players

      Cooper Cronk
      James Tedesco
      Luke Keary
      + More Options
    Umm that's not Bondi Boy. Bondi Boy is the Roosters wing coach and resident stadia expert who likes to get under the skin of ism, almost as much as the axe does.

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  • Frozen Chook
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    Originally posted by bondi paul View Post
    Indeed it’s a great read that’s all inclusive of the facts however the story has been written before by another whereas Gould has written a updated and more statistical story based on the original. Journalistic plagiarism by Gus however this read for the masses will only further the socio demographic hang up and dislike.
    Bondi Boy this subject has been discussed in detail on this forum. It is pleasing that Phil Gould has expanded on the subject.

    The latest variation
    • Frozen Chook
      Frozen Chook
      Chookpen Members
      • Join Date: Mar 2015
      • Posts: 452

      #6
      10-06-2018, 09:44 PM
      If we look at our current first grade squad and grand final team(in bold) the success of the club is based on a long term succession planning process of players developed at the club, signing key players in the middle ground of the games playing stock, some who are at times on the outer at their club and a very small number of well-established players.

      Even if we look at our Coach, Trent Robinson, he came to us as a relatively untested coach by NRL standards.

      Many current sports journalists (the regurgitators) don’t want to do the research required for their jobs and to quote a former Prime Minister they are like a dog returning to its own vomit which has a vintage from the early 70’s.

      The only continuum throughout the nearly fifty years of this tired old rerun of a story is the son of Greek migrants, Nick Politis, who built a very successful business and football club. Nick saw all of the potential models of how success could be achieved including the super mid 70’s team, the transit lounge era and the game’s Super League misadventure.

      Now we have a model based on developing a core of young players supported by strategic signings of key players to compliment the maturing footballers and a number of signings of mid-range players.

      Nick has always struck me as a fiercely independent person and it doesn’t surprise me that he has found himself at times at odds with the NRL establishment and the media sycophants and hanger ons.

      Over the forty odd years I have followed Easts I have never spoken to Nick until this year when I was by myself in the stand at the Penrith trial and Nick passed by down the steps, when he turned and saw an Easts supporter he came back up said hello and shook by hand to check in on how we would go this year.

      We both agreed on one thing that was to eventuate last week.

      What do they say about football and the 1 percenters?

      Developed at Easts SG BALL – under 20’s – etc. or debuted at Easts

      Bernard Lewis
      Billy Smith
      Joseph Manu
      Brendan Frei
      Lachlan Lam
      Latrell Mitchell
      Sean O'Sullivan
      Boyd Cordner
      Brock Gray
      Dylan Napa
      Eloni Vunakece
      Jake Friend
      Joshua Curran
      Lindsay Collins
      Mitchell Aubusson
      Matt Ikuvalu
      Isaac Liu
      Paul Momirovski
      Poasa Faamausili
      Reuben Porter
      Sitili Tupouniua
      Victor Radley

      Players who were not wanted by their clubs or late-early stage of their careers

      Blake Ferguson
      Daniel Tupou
      Reece Robinson
      Frank-Paul Nuuausala
      Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
      Kurt Baptiste
      Nat Butcher
      Mitchell Cornish
      Ryan Matterson
      Siosiua Taukeiaho
      Zane Tetevano

      Major signing of established and successful NRL first graders-rep players

      Cooper Cronk
      James Tedesco
      Luke Keary
      + More Options

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  • Random Rooster
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    Originally posted by Kingbilly View Post

    Obviously not.

    But I am so grateful for 2 things. 1 That Gould has nothing to do with the Roosters now and 2 I have foxtel and don't have to listen to his mindless dribble based on which team he has bet on.

    but thanks for the laugh with B and C. Especially B. That's so Gould
    Well mate i'm glad b & c gave you a laugh. Now go stick your head in a bucket of sand and pretend it's not true

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  • Johnny73
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    Originally posted by mattyh View Post
    we as a club owe gus a lot, pretty grim times the decade before he arrived with a player who as i recall could play a bit.
    Yes. Matt Sing was a great winger. And that Brad Fittler was alright on his day too.

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  • NorfolkStreetKid
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    A great article and thanks for sharing it. Gould is an enigma but had plenty of success as both a player and a coach, has probably forgotten more about Rugby League that most of us will ever know. Good on him for putting some facts out there that many of our detractors would never have known.

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  • Johnny Tobin
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    Originally posted by bondi paul View Post
    Indeed it’s a great read that’s all inclusive of the facts however the story has been written before by another whereas Gould has written a updated and more statistical story based on the original. Journalistic plagiarism by Gus however this read for the masses will only further the socio demographic hang up and dislike.
    I must have missed that earlier article.

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