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  • #76
    Napa did nothing illegal as far as we all know. No party has complained unlike the Burgess thing...If it was released without his consent then that person needs to be charged. Only the wowsers and other fans are whinging which is expected.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
      Napa did nothing illegal as far as we all know. No party has complained unlike the Burgess thing...If it was released without his consent then that person needs to be charged. Only the wowsers and other fans are whinging which is expected.
      Who complained in the Burgess case? The women who didnít want to press charges?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by milanja View Post

        Who complained in the Burgess case? The women who didnít want to press charges?
        Yes! She complained around July. Apparently a month later and then it all came out prior to their finals game against the saints. If she changed her mind after 'souths' conducted the investigation then you have to wonder why she did that.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kingbilly View Post
          On the media note, RL seems to be one of the few professional sports where the job of the media and commentary is to drag the sport down consistently
          This is so true. It's the only sport I can think of where the culture of the media is to drag the game into the mud.

          Very bizarre. And infuriating.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Tommy Smith View Post
            This is so true. It's the only sport I can think of where the culture of the media is to drag the game into the mud.

            Very bizarre. And infuriating.
            I agree....but gees the league player gives them plenty to feed on.
            this is what i feel that sets these guys off...they do the coke since they cant drink so much but cant help themselves and up drinking anyway..combine the two.and you get all this shit.
            look at these youngys pumping themselves at these dance gigs..constantly kicking the bucket but still do it...and guess what the leaguies still do it too. You have to rule the people with an Iron fist or it continues.
            Last edited by The Brain; 02-09-2019, 06:31 PM.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by The Brain View Post

              I agree....but gees the league player gives them plenty to feed on.
              this is what i feel that sets these guys off...they do the coke since they cant drink so much but cant help themselves and up drinking anyway..combine the two.and you get all this shit.
              look at these youngys pumping themselves at these dance gigs..constantly kicking the bucket but still do it...and guess what the leaguies still do it too. You have to rule the people with an Iron fist or it continues.
              Who says drugs were involved?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
                Yet Burgess gets off. At least his wife made him pay.
                they are both a pair of prized dickheads and deserve each other. Apparently sh is a leech that hasn't worked a day in her life and well he is a Burgess
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
                  Napa did nothing illegal as far as we all know.
                  I dunno the player's code of conduct...etc but IMO that's what's gonna be more serious here because we could still be implicated.

                  Remove the NRL from this. Imagine that in your grad year during the 1st week of your grad program you've gone and recorded movies like this. Your grad cohort has then setup an online group to share stuff like this and EVERYBODY has known about this movie, watched it, laughed and it's kinda like a trophy in your mind. Fast forward. 10 years later you're in a serior relationship (maybe with a wife + kids) and you're in a senior role. The group still exists and somebody who didn't get ahead within that organisation is jealous so they leak the video. BOOM. Suddenly everybody who shared that video, looked at it and laughed at it is implicated.

                  I don't care whether any laws were broken... would the NRL be breaking any laws if it sacked/suspended a few Roosters for taking part in this group and encouraging this kinda rubbish?

                  I know my organisation has very strict social media guidelines (down to what you can do on LinkedIn + FB...etc). People have been sacked for much lesser things in my time. I have no doubt I'd have been sacked if I were a Napa within my organisation. Absolutely no doubt and I'd probably get more exposure than him too because while I don't have the same public profile, I'd make a far more respectable institution than a footy comp look completely stupid (also I'm paid for my brain and judgment, not my physical skills). No doubt in my head I'd be sacked if that happened!!!
                  Last edited by ism22; 02-10-2019, 11:46 AM.

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                  • #84
                    In 2014 Konrad Hurrell sent a snapchat of himself in a sex act in a car that managed to make its way into the public. The NRL fined him $5000 and he apologised. Since then there has been numerous domestic violence incidents which the NRL has let slide because the female in question has withdrawn the charge or the court has made a ruling and the NRL believes thats sufficient punishment (eg Scott Bolton but numerous others).
                    So what have we been left with since? Mitchell Pearce being suspended for 8 weeks and 125K for the doggie incident that was illegally taken at a private party and now Dylan Napa again over a video taken 5 plus years ago of him doing nothing illegal and no complaint from the other party in question. Greenberg is the master of putting band aids on hemorrhages whilst ordering surgery on bruises. The past 3 years of bad off field behaviour has been under his leadership. If he had any idea of what he was doing it wouldnt have come to all this. The NRL needs a strong leader and Greenberg is far from that

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                      I dunno the player's code of conduct...etc but IMO that's what's gonna be more serious here because we could still be implicated.

                      Remove the NRL from this. Imagine that in your grad year during the 1st week of your grad program you've gone and recorded movies like this. Your grad cohort has then setup an online group to share stuff like this and EVERYBODY has known about this movie, watched it, laughed and it's kinda like a trophy in your mind. Fast forward. 10 years later you're in a serior relationship (maybe with a wife + kids) and you're in a senior role. The group still exists and somebody who didn't get ahead within that organisation is jealous so they leak the video. BOOM. Suddenly everybody who shared that video, looked at it and laughed at it is implicated.

                      I don't care whether any laws were broken... would the NRL be breaking any laws if it sacked/suspended a few Roosters for taking part in this group and encouraging this kinda rubbish?

                      I know my organisation has very strict social media guidelines (down to what you can do on LinkedIn + FB...etc). People have been sacked for much lesser things in my time. I have no doubt I'd have been sacked if I were a Napa within my organisation. Absolutely no doubt and I'd probably get more exposure than him too because while I don't have the same public profile, I'd make a far more respectable institution than a footy comp look completely stupid (also I'm paid for my brain and judgment, not my physical skills). No doubt in my head I'd be sacked if that happened!!!
                      Firstly youíre creating a scenario about a grad first year etc which has nothing to do with this...

                      As far as the NRL goes, well you don't know how they act. One day they'll suspend someone for being drunk in a video and fine him thousands and take him out f the game for 8 weeks when there hasn't been a complaint, and the next day they'll let off a player whos been sexting with a fan who did make a complaint. Perhaps the difference between the two incidents is probably that the Roosters legals didn't have a clue on how to save Pierce whilst at the vermin they got Murphy to threaten the NRL with legal jargon... If the NRL did decide that we are responsible for this, well the Roosters legals better get their act together.


                      As for whatever your company dictates to you is not the same everywhere else. Most organisations just ask their employees not to make comments on behalf of the company. What you are on has got no bearing to this.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by ROC181 View Post

                        Firstly youíre creating a scenario about a grad first year etc which has nothing to do with this...

                        As far as the NRL goes, well you don't know how they act. One day they'll suspend someone for being drunk in a video and fine him thousands and take him out f the game for 8 weeks when there hasn't been a complaint, and the next day they'll let off a player whos been sexting with a fan who did make a complaint. Perhaps the difference between the two incidents is probably that the Roosters legals didn't have a clue on how to save Pierce whilst at the vermin they got Murphy to threaten the NRL with legal jargon... If the NRL did decide that we are responsible for this, well the Roosters legals better get their act together.


                        As for whatever your company dictates to you is not the same everywhere else. Most organisations just ask their employees not to make comments on behalf of the company. What you are on has got no bearing to this.
                        Evidently you've never worked for a large, public facing organisation. My boss doesn't just 'tell me to do this and that'... there's large, glossy leaflets and dedicated training sessions that I attend on a regular basis (and a team that can help setup my social media accounts in compliance with policy). It's a condition of my employment contract that I obey these rules. ANY large enough organisation will have significant parts of its HR unit dedicated to upholding the organisation's values.

                        The NRL has its integrity unit, it has policies (that the players would have drilled into them) and it'll decided what to do when its policies have been breached. I respect that your sandwich shop probably doesn't have an integrity unit. That's because it's a micro business...

                        You clearly have no legal training so I'm not gonna go down that track with you other than to say that policies exist for legal as well as practical reasons. Breaching a contract (e.g. a code of conduct you have agreed to obide by) is not 'illegal' but it can be grounds for the other party to tear up the contract and/or demand a remedy for the breach or contract.
                        Last edited by ism22; 02-10-2019, 05:07 PM.

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                        • #87
                          I think you're being a bit judgemental ism22.
                          Ive worked for a very large company (2nd biggest in the World in its industry) & cant say its bigger or smaller than yours ... although (60,000 employees & revenue of over 15 billion Euro a year).
                          Now we had all our emails checked,scanned,IT constantly changing passwords etc as well as monthly workshops on codes of conduct,laws,expectations & the whole works.I was in a reasonably high position,suit & tie & top handful in the country for that company in what i did.
                          We were forbidden to make degrading,defamatory comments on competitors,our own company as well as the standard racism,threats etc......But now its a big but they could not do a thing about me filming porn in my own private life,unless it was on company premises or in uniform with company logos.They also had a staff member who had a company car get caught drink driving yet couldnt sack him because it was done out of hours.The ultimatum was you need to do your job so how you get to & from your duties is now your own cost but they couldnt remove him. They also couldn't sack anyone from having a mad monday type event where they got their kit of at a pub or passed out on a street.That company was a global company but even they knew they didnt own staff outside hours & certainly couldnt just step on when they wanted & set their own punishment.
                          Now if what you think is the norm within big groups,companies etc then there would be loads of cops,doctors,politicians etc all out of work.
                          I hope whoever gets punished for this absolutely reams the NRL for stepping in on a private matter where no laws were broken & no harm was done.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                            Evidently you've never worked for a large, public facing organisation. My boss doesn't just 'tell me to do this and that'... there's large, glossy leaflets and dedicated training sessions that I attend on a regular basis (and a team that can help setup my social media accounts in compliance with policy). It's a condition of my employment contract that I obey these rules. ANY large enough organisation will have significant parts of its HR unit dedicated to upholding the organisation's values.

                            The NRL has its integrity unit, it has policies (that the players would have drilled into them) and it'll decided what to do when its policies have been breached. I respect that your sandwich shop probably doesn't have an integrity unit. That's because it's a micro business...

                            You clearly have no legal training so I'm not gonna go down that track with you other than to say that policies exist for legal as well as practical reasons. Breaching a contract (e.g. a code of conduct you have agreed to obide by) is not 'illegal' but it can be grounds for the other party to tear up the contract and/or demand a remedy for the breach or contract.
                            Dude I used to sympathise with your posts but something has happened to you, for the worse. I wouldn't condescend to people because they have "no legal training". I've seen what happens to people with legal training. Lawyers are not men and women of science and students of nature. Their version of science is "case law", or in other words what some pedophile judge decided on a whim thirty years ago after 3 months of deliberation and three quarters of a bottle of scotch.



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                            • #89
                              It's times like this I'm glad there weren't mobile phone cameras around in the early 90's.

                              "Shit, M, get the air bubble out before you inject that"
                              "Gee, thanks B, I wouldn't have noticed."

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                                Evidently you've never worked for a large, public facing organisation. My boss doesn't just 'tell me to do this and that'... there's large, glossy leaflets and dedicated training sessions that I attend on a regular basis (and a team that can help setup my social media accounts in compliance with policy). It's a condition of my employment contract that I obey these rules. ANY large enough organisation will have significant parts of its HR unit dedicated to upholding the organisation's values.

                                The NRL has its integrity unit, it has policies (that the players would have drilled into them) and it'll decided what to do when its policies have been breached. I respect that your sandwich shop probably doesn't have an integrity unit. That's because it's a micro business...

                                You clearly have no legal training so I'm not gonna go down that track with you other than to say that policies exist for legal as well as practical reasons. Breaching a contract (e.g. a code of conduct you have agreed to obide by) is not 'illegal' but it can be grounds for the other party to tear up the contract and/or demand a remedy for the breach or contract.
                                I think youíre being over dramatic about all of this and yes I have worked for major organisations before and Iím currently working for one of the biggest one now. As for my legal training, well I donít have a university degree in law but have 2 in other fields, but itís not about me. I think you need to relax and go with the flow.

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