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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
I don't know if this is the case as but I have wondered if there was some post season analysis done that identified some issues with Terrell's game that contributed to the decision to let him go.
I was really excited to see the way he started the season because he was running with power, something I'd called out as an opportunity of his in prior seasons but the longer the season went on the more and more he went away from that power game and the more he seemed to care about staying upright in a tackle rather than making the most amount of yards or getting a quick play the ball.
For some insight more specifically what I'm talking about, out of all Roosters players to play prop last season he ranked last in average metres per run. This also saw him rank 83rd out of 96 players to play prop in the comp last year for average metres per carry.
In terms of his carries 45% saw him gain less than 8 metres and 55% more than 8 metres gained. That was equal worst in the squad among props along with Lindsay Collins. This is really surprising given how frequently he came off the bench and how many late set carries he would take. No prop in the competition took more sub 8 metre runs last year than Terrell May.
Now I know that's not the be all and end all, like most on here you'd have to be blind not to see his potential. I'd argue he's just about the most naturally gifted prop in the game currently, so I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out for him at the Roosters and will watch his development with one eye.
But I do wonder if this all played some role, because he's certainly not your typical modern day prop. He plays the game a little differently.
I’ve noticed similar from Terrell heck he was named at lock one week wasn’t he? I feel like he’s definitely added more ball playing to his game rather than just hitting it up and he doesn’t have a lot of acceleration into the line either but I still reckon he was pretty good at giving us a quick play the ball.
It will be interesting to see how Benj uses him.
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
I don't know if this is the case as but I have wondered if there was some post season analysis done that identified some issues with Terrell's game that contributed to the decision to let him go.
I was really excited to see the way he started the season because he was running with power, something I'd called out as an opportunity of his in prior seasons but the longer the season went on the more and more he went away from that power game and the more he seemed to care about staying upright in a tackle rather than making the most amount of yards or getting a quick play the ball.
For some insight more specifically what I'm talking about, out of all Roosters players to play prop last season he ranked last in average metres per run. This also saw him rank 83rd out of 96 players to play prop in the comp last year for average metres per carry.
In terms of his carries 45% saw him gain less than 8 metres and 55% more than 8 metres gained. That was equal worst in the squad among props along with Lindsay Collins. This is really surprising given how frequently he came off the bench and how many late set carries he would take. No prop in the competition took more sub 8 metre runs last year than Terrell May.
Now I know that's not the be all and end all, like most on here you'd have to be blind not to see his potential. I'd argue he's just about the most naturally gifted prop in the game currently, so I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out for him at the Roosters and will watch his development with one eye.
But I do wonder if this all played some role, because he's certainly not your typical modern day prop. He plays the game a little differently.
Leniu was the back fence king while May provided footwork into contact, offloads and ball playing capability - more a smarter frontrower then just bash and crash
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Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
I don't know if this is the case as but I have wondered if there was some post season analysis done that identified some issues with Terrell's game that contributed to the decision to let him go.
I was really excited to see the way he started the season because he was running with power, something I'd called out as an opportunity of his in prior seasons but the longer the season went on the more and more he went away from that power game and the more he seemed to care about staying upright in a tackle rather than making the most amount of yards or getting a quick play the ball.
For some insight more specifically what I'm talking about, out of all Roosters players to play prop last season he ranked last in average metres per run. This also saw him rank 83rd out of 96 players to play prop in the comp last year for average metres per carry.
In terms of his carries 45% saw him gain less than 8 metres and 55% more than 8 metres gained. That was equal worst in the squad among props along with Lindsay Collins. This is really surprising given how frequently he came off the bench and how many late set carries he would take. No prop in the competition took more sub 8 metre runs last year than Terrell May.
Now I know that's not the be all and end all, like most on here you'd have to be blind not to see his potential. I'd argue he's just about the most naturally gifted prop in the game currently, so I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out for him at the Roosters and will watch his development with one eye.
But I do wonder if this all played some role, because he's certainly not your typical modern day prop. He plays the game a little differently.
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Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post
Right and letting Terrell leave was a step in the right direction…..
I was really excited to see the way he started the season because he was running with power, something I'd called out as an opportunity of his in prior seasons but the longer the season went on the more and more he went away from that power game and the more he seemed to care about staying upright in a tackle rather than making the most amount of yards or getting a quick play the ball.
For some insight more specifically what I'm talking about, out of all Roosters players to play prop last season he ranked last in average metres per run. This also saw him rank 83rd out of 96 players to play prop in the comp last year for average metres per carry.
In terms of his carries 45% saw him gain less than 8 metres and 55% more than 8 metres gained. That was equal worst in the squad among props along with Lindsay Collins. This is really surprising given how frequently he came off the bench and how many late set carries he would take. No prop in the competition took more sub 8 metre runs last year than Terrell May.
Now I know that's not the be all and end all, like most on here you'd have to be blind not to see his potential. I'd argue he's just about the most naturally gifted prop in the game currently, so I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out for him at the Roosters and will watch his development with one eye.
But I do wonder if this all played some role, because he's certainly not your typical modern day prop. He plays the game a little differently.
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Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post
If he was that good he wouldn't have been chased by shit teams like the Tigers, Dragons and Bulldogs
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Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post
If he was that good he wouldn't have been chased by shit teams like the Tigers, Dragons and Bulldogs
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Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post
Right and letting Terrell leave was a step in the right direction…..
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Some years back after a Barcelona FC visit, the club decided going forward to implement and professionalise the Rooster pathways/academy system.
Last year we entered a Rooster team in the NSW Cup this team contained many young academy players
Let me speculate
Robo calls a meeting to discuss the team for 2025 and beyond, with many of our players having left the club .
Two long term injuries to Sam Walker and Brendon Smith have changed the original plan.
Robbo said he got Townsend (1 year) for his leadership and experience and as a back up to Walker and Sandon Smith if required
Robbo bought Nawaqanitawase to replace Sua'ali'i and Manu (after failing to buy Gagai)
On the whiteboard he has a picture of the R1 team and a picture of say the team 1 month out from the finals which might /or might not include Sam Walker and Brandon Smith
From the meeting a plan is agreed which includes which players are part of the plan and which are not
Positions that are vacant will be filled from internally if possible and if not, see if quality is available on the open market
Imagine Robbo has a wave of young players ready to play at NRL level and behind them are another batch ready for NSW Cup (and so on)
If we intend to use the academy players now they are ready, we will need to make positions available at the top.and pay them accordingly. Else we will lose them to other clubs.
The salary cap will mean we have to be ruthless on who we keep and who we let go.
To win a premiership one likely built around Sam Walker, he will need the creme de la creme of players around him to compete with the likes of Penrith
A team that can match it man for man if not better it.
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Originally posted by Rooster90 View Post
Thats a name i haven't heard for a while, a Brian Smith favourite
I always liked Arona, he played very similar to Isaac Liu
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Originally posted by Hawkeye View Post
thx for that, a good listen. Have to say during the interview, Tinirau Arona seems very proud of his time as a Rooster which was good to hear.
I always liked Arona, he played very similar to Isaac Liu
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Originally posted by "gaz" View PostDe La Salle Va'a very cool on ABC's Polynesian radio,
Didn;t know the brothers are cousin to Spencer Leniu
Interview starts at the 27:30
https://www.abc.net.au/pacific/progr...amoa/104593102
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Our forwards as a collective during the semi final campaign were horrific. To be easy beats against Penrith and Melbourne game after game is unacceptable. We still don't have a real hooker. Madness.
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Originally posted by SamKerrSimp View Post
Our forwards got dominated against every big team this season it's no surprise we've seen a shake up.
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Originally posted by ChookMaster View Post
Madness.
Our pack should’ve included May along with these young pups. May is only 25.
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